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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    whatever

    I hate the current system, strict each kind of weapon to one class, not a good idea from the beginning especially when you add more classes to the game, when you have Paladin and Dark Knight in the game then what class you will be if you equip a sword? will they make 3 kind of sword?
    Paladin doesn't have to use a Sword. It can use a Sword, A Polestaff, a Polearm, a Club, a Hammer. Even a Bow. Not to mention Shields.

    Jobs shouldn't be seperated by Weapon. Weapon Classes are (which is why its the Armoury System its a Weapon Class System) The Job system just fits on top and lets you play as a Paladin as a Lancer, Gladiator, Pugilist what ever you want. What ever system they use shouldn't limit what Weapon Class a Job can use or vis versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    whatever

    I hate the current system, strict each kind of weapon to one class, not a good idea from the beginning especially when you add more classes to the game, when you have Paladin and Dark Knight in the game then what class you will be if you equip a sword? will they make 3 kind of sword?
    I feel your pain. I was troubled by the lack of a class that could dual-wield daggers, had high evasion, and could steal stuff.

    What were they called again?? Hmm.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    whatever

    I hate the current system, strict each kind of weapon to one class, not a good idea from the beginning especially when you add more classes to the game, when you have Paladin and Dark Knight in the game then what class you will be if you equip a sword? will they make 3 kind of sword?
    Two handed sword. Dark knights have never been tanks anyway.
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    If be interesting in the synergy between job vs armory

    Perhaps itl be something along the lines of setting what your bonus/stats etc will be



    my examples

    Thm or Conj are your armory class

    You choose Blm as your job, youll get +stats on some ends - stats on the other
    Your damage dealing spells will deal 25% more damage
    Your healing will take a 25% penalty

    and im sure you can go from there on what itl mean


    id really like to see it where we dont have to level the jobs also, leveling the weapons still being the best method, but with the job system youll personalize things by making some things alot more effective while things not related to it taking a penalty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Two handed sword. Dark knights have never been tanks anyway.
    *Sigh* I wish people would stop pidgeon holing jobs into things without thinking.

    Dark Knights were some of the best tanks in the series PRE-FFXI.

    In FFT a Dark Knight could stand still with 4 guys wailing on him, Take all the damage they dealt, then turn around and strike one of them for all that damage, heal all the damage back to themselves and keep going.

    They were Drain Tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Hopefully something similar to what me and Carpe have been saying this whole time.

    It wont Scrap or Touch the Armoury System and instead will fit ontop of it kinda like when you build two individual puzzles but then realize they fit together as well making an even larger whole.
    Closely analyzing that post I noticed that the Armory system and Job system are separated. He didn't just say "We will present info on our new Armory system." That has me hoping he chose an idea similar to Carpe and you. That would be the best way to enhance and complete the missing half of our current system. The other ideas kinda drowned out our current classes by just turning them into a job.

    Here's hoping I didn't over-analyze the situation! It doesn't have to be exactly but would be cool if he used the core idea.
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    and on another front, if we do have to level the jobs too

    i seriously hope its like leveling shield, where it counts your current armory class as far as what SP base ytou get
    with how many people are 50 in certain armory classes already, itd be nice to allow them to stay in the endgame camps to do the jobs too even if from scratch

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    I hope he going with Level up a class pass a level and unlock Class "A or B" not oh look you have a tree now pick which one you want to take. Even if he make it diff from other game it still be a tree system and a hybrid class system which i don't really enjoy. Allow players to play the class now but if they like a job you can unlock the follow jobs and be set to a role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    Closely analyzing that post I noticed that the Armory system and Job system are separated. He didn't just say "We will present info on our new Armory system." That has me hoping he chose an idea similar to Carpe and you. That would be the best way to ehance and complete the missing half of our current system. The other ideas kinda drowned out our current classes by just turning them into a job.
    Yeah, and that other system forced you to only have access to certain jobs when you hit a level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    *Sigh* I wish people would stop pidgeon holing jobs into things without thinking.

    Dark Knights were some of the best tanks in the series PRE-FFXI.

    In FFT a Dark Knight could stand still with 4 guys wailing on him, Take all the damage they dealt, then turn around and strike one of them for all that damage, heal all the damage back to themselves and keep going.

    They were Drain Tanks.
    The little detail you're missing here is that we really don't need more tanks in this game. People playing gladiator are already having trouble finding a spot in NM groups in their own linkshell, and it'll be even worse with the 8-men restriction.

    Offline games don't really count, as the usage of the trinity is much more elastic.
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