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    Really? Are we still picking that statement apart? I really wish they'd never have used the word "flood" because apparently it must literally be an actual flood of information to make this forum happy. You must drown all of the users in the amount of information, they must all literally die. If it's not an actual flood it's not good enough. I really hate this place...

    I took it to mean "a lot" of info. Did we get "a lot" of info? Entirely subjective and I say yes. I'd say we know "a lot" more about A Realm Reborn than we did before the Summer. We knew very little about the game previously, we had never even seen footage of it. Now we've got a handful of trailers, a good amount of footage from a few different showings, we know far more about the extent of the changes, we even have some decent details on some of the changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Really? Are we still picking that statement apart? I really wish they'd never have used the word "flood" because apparently it must literally be an actual flood of information to make this forum happy. You must drown all of the users in the amount of information, they must all literally die. If it's not an actual flood it's not good enough. I really hate this place...

    I took it to mean "a lot" of info. Did we get "a lot" of info? Entirely subjective and I say yes. I'd say we know "a lot" more about A Realm Reborn than we did before the Summer. We knew very little about the game previously, we had never even seen footage of it. Now we've got a handful of trailers, a good amount of footage from a few different showings, we know far more about the extent of the changes, we even have some decent details on some of the changes.
    dudes dropping knowledge bombs right there (not sarcastic)


    we learned about fan service stuff:
    crystal tower, golden saucer, magitek armor(which was already kinda known but now its definite), Amun fight

    learned about general changes:
    saw in-game footage of how amazing stuff is, limit break system, gathering/crafting system, tp management centered battle system, monks can chain past 3 ws's unlike other classes, will have plenty of quests to sustain multiple classes from leveling 1-50, will have open world events that also help you level, new dungeons designed for leveling/gearing lowbies, level sync as well as level caps to content, chocobo fighting allies (tank, healer, caster w/ respective gear fits), introducing multiple types of mounts

    learned about a new DoM:
    arcanist having 2 diff types of carbys
    summoner having 4 primal infused pets (not primals themselves)

    learned they're adding ninja,musketeer, samuari
    just no clear date or which will come first

    learned some stuff about music changes which to some is important myself not included but to each their own
    learned stuff about the architecture of the engine, another thing that is only important to some

    learned that you need 4 people to create a grand company (doesnt matter if you're from diff GC's)
    also that you can change your GC multiple times but there is a delay between changing to frequently
    was shown where they plan on putting player housing and some actions that can be done to houses

    I could keep going but I listed alot already
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    Last edited by wind; 10-16-2012 at 01:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wind View Post
    dudes dropping knowledge bombs right there (not sarcastic)


    we learned about fan service stuff:
    crystal tower, golden saucer, magitek armor(which was already kinda known but now its definite), Amun fight

    learned about general changes:
    saw in-game footage of how amazing stuff is, limit break system, gathering/crafting system, tp management centered battle system, monks can chain past 3 ws's unlike other classes, will have plenty of quests to sustain multiple classes from leveling 1-50, will have open world events that also help you level, new dungeons designed for leveling/gearing lowbies, level sync as well as level caps to content, chocobo fighting allies (tank, healer, caster w/ respective gear fits), introducing multiple types of mounts

    learned about a new DoM:
    arcanist having 2 diff types of carbys
    summoner having 4 primal infused pets (not primals themselves)

    learned they're adding ninja,musketeer, samuari
    just no clear date or which will come first

    learned some stuff about music changes which to some is important myself not included but to each their own
    learned stuff about the architecture of the engine, another thing that is only important to some

    learned that you need 4 people to create a grand company (doesnt matter if you're from diff GC's)
    also that you can change your GC multiple times but there is a delay between changing to frequently
    was shown where they plan on putting player housing and some actions that can be done to houses

    I could keep going but I listed alot already
    what was the time frame on which all the above information was given, How many days, weeks ,months in between said information? Flood or Trickle?
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    If you're using the main website as your source for everything, then I can understand your frustration. Since the website didn't include 1/10th of the information that has been released so far. HOWEVER, the fault doesn't simply belong to SE alone, if you(general term, not directed at a certain person) didn't attempt to keep track of all the promotions they have been doing with dev interview, live letter, LFTPs, the bajillion interviews they did since E3.

    They touched on almost all the topics you listed, I'm using "touched" because of course they didn't give us detailed information that explains it from the ground up. But, how could you expect that? there job is to entice us by giving us just enough information that fuels our interest and the rest will be on us to experience in-game.
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    Last edited by wind; 10-16-2012 at 03:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wind View Post
    If you're using the main website as your source for everything, then I can understand your frustration. Since the website didn't include 1/10th of the information that has been released so far. HOWEVER, the fault doesn't simply belong to SE alone, if you(general term, not directed at a certain person) didn't attempt to keep track of all the promotions they have been doing with dev interview, live letter, LFTPs, the bajillion interviews they did since E3.

    They touched on almost all the topics you listed, I'm using "touched" because of course they didn't give us detailed information that explains it from the ground up. But, how could you expect that? there job is to entice us by giving us just enough information that fuels our interest and the rest will be on us to experience in-game.
    Oh I read every single thread here and everyone of Reinhart's excellent translations. Last week I caught myself reading it at work as he was typing it. I suppose it's better than my boss catching me... My point about the website was a) Why set it up and not use it and b) why not collect information as it is presented in one place.

    I'm not even asking for detailed information but just what will be available and roughly when. I have gone from thinking that the following at a minimum would be available on 2.0 release:

    Free Companies
    Chocobo raising
    Housing
    PvP
    Crystal Tower

    to reading all kinds of vague statements in the interviews making me think that only a basic implementation of Free Companies and (some of) Crystal Tower will be available. Up until last weeks interviews I was sure Chocobo raising would be in the release of 2.0 only to read the following nugget of a non-answer in Reinhart's translation of the interview:

    Just confirmation but for the Chocobo raising system, this will be available from the launch of ARR FFXIV correct?
    Y: Development team is working hard. I’ve been scolded that the “Cost is too high!” (laugh)

    Seriously! If they don't know the answer to this then the release is quite far into the future or I am very very frightened about the content of 2.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynthis View Post
    Oh I read every single thread here and everyone of Reinhart's excellent translations. Last week I caught myself reading it at work as he was typing it. I suppose it's better than my boss catching me... My point about the website was a) Why set it up and not use it and b) why not collect information as it is presented in one place.

    I'm not even asking for detailed information but just what will be available and roughly when. I have gone from thinking that the following at a minimum would be available on 2.0 release:

    Free Companies
    Chocobo raising
    Housing
    PvP
    Crystal Tower

    to reading all kinds of vague statements in the interviews making me think that only a basic implementation of Free Companies and (some of) Crystal Tower will be available. Up until last weeks interviews I was sure Chocobo raising would be in the release of 2.0 only to read the following nugget of a non-answer in Reinhart's translation of the interview:

    Just confirmation but for the Chocobo raising system, this will be available from the launch of ARR FFXIV correct?
    Y: Development team is working hard. I’ve been scolded that the “Cost is too high!” (laugh)

    Seriously! If they don't know the answer to this then the release is quite far into the future or I am very very frightened about the content of 2.0.
    If you're "very, very frightened" about anything, then you're taking it all way too seriously, and you're also assuming the worst.

    It's more important that these features are done right than be released immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    If you're "very, very frightened" about anything, then you're taking it all way too seriously, and you're also assuming the worst.

    It's more important that these features are done right than be released immediately.
    Well, very, very frightened in the context of this being a video game of course...

    I do agree that it is more important to get these features right but the mere promise to see them in the future will most likely not be enough to retain players who try the game so better then to hold off on the release until they are done properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynthis View Post
    Oh I read every single thread here and everyone of Reinhart's excellent translations. Last week I caught myself reading it at work as he was typing it. I suppose it's better than my boss catching me... My point about the website was a) Why set it up and not use it and b) why not collect information as it is presented in one place.

    I'm not even asking for detailed information but just what will be available and roughly when. I have gone from thinking that the following at a minimum would be available on 2.0 release:

    Free Companies
    Chocobo raising
    Housing
    PvP
    Crystal Tower

    to reading all kinds of vague statements in the interviews making me think that only a basic implementation of Free Companies and (some of) Crystal Tower will be available. Up until last weeks interviews I was sure Chocobo raising would be in the release of 2.0 only to read the following nugget of a non-answer in Reinhart's translation of the interview:

    Just confirmation but for the Chocobo raising system, this will be available from the launch of ARR FFXIV correct?
    Y: Development team is working hard. I’ve been scolded that the “Cost is too high!” (laugh)

    Seriously! If they don't know the answer to this then the release is quite far into the future or I am very very frightened about the content of 2.0.
    I am almost positive PVP has been stated for after release. Can't find a source right now though.
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