Old Players, New Worlds - A problem arises?

[Zantetsuken]

So when determining how to price gil sinks in the market (such as dynamis-like raids) how will you determine the cost? If one server has a brand new economy and another server has millions of gil, you will either have:

1. a high-price, easily affordable on old servers but not affordable on new servers

2. a low-price, easily affordable everywhere ruining the gil sink concept

3. Two/Multiple different prices which will never be fair as it is nearly impossible to create an index of players who have lots of gil but aren't currently playing, and nearly impossible to predict when players hoarding gil will return.

Or you completely limit the game from any price controls what-so-ever, which seems like a recipe for disaster.

So basically, how does SE intend to deal with the obvious economic problem of having multiple DIFFERENT economies, without creating unfair policies that benefit one server over another, and alienate players or cause mass-migrations when server transfers are open?

And if this doesn't sound like a serious issue. Consider applying US monetary policy to Nigeria, or Canada, or France. Ask any economist and they will tell you what a disaster it would be.

Currently there aren't large (Dynamis-like) gil-sinks in the world - and other than housing estates, I don't know of any planned ones.

Almost all Gil sinks in FFXIV are smaller convenience fees that are easily avoided by new players:

• Market Tax
• NPC Repair
• Airship Travel
• NPC mats for endgame crafting
• etc.

These work just fine in removing gil from the economy end-game, which means it will hit the servers full of capped players much harder than ones with all new players.

Sure, it may be a long time before anyone on a new-player server gets to buy a big housing estate compared to any of us, but that's hardly game-breaking.

[Zumi]

We will be setting up fresh new Worlds for the new players so that they build the economy from the ground up and if an existing player wanted to play on a new World, they would have to create a new character on that World.

New players wanting to play with existing players will be able to create a new character on their World as long as the population limit has not been reached. We currently have no plans of setting up a new World where existing players can transfer to right at launch.

What about old players who want to transfer to an old server that is in their correct region. Like say if my server Durandal is a JP server, will I be able to transfer to an old server that is in the NA region?

[Molly_Millions]

What about old players who want to transfer to an old server that is in their correct region. Like say if my server Durandal is a JP server, will I be able to transfer to an old server that is in the NA region?

yes

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[Naraku_Diabolos]

We will be setting up fresh new Worlds for the new players so that they build the economy from the ground up and if an existing player wanted to play on a new World, they would have to create a new character on that World.

New players wanting to play with existing players will be able to create a new character on their World as long as the population limit has not been reached. We currently have no plans of setting up a new World where existing players can transfer to right at launch.

With worlds reaching capacity, is there a way that the STF would know if those "extra people" are RMTs?

[JDR388]

So if I am to understand this properly. SE is setting up these new data centers and new worlds so that players across all regions will be able to play without the issues of latency and lag that have been problems throughout the 1.0 release.

However, because SE wants to preserve the economies of said worlds, existing players in regions outside of Japan will not be able to take advantage of these changes until it is decided that they can.

Unless, of course, they make a new character and throw all their work from 1.0 to the wayside.

I find this to be very counter productive and a bit unfair to the current paying customers.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

outside of japan ? Wat ? You actually understood what is happening ?

[Meatdawg]

Ok, im an old player, been playing for two years, seeing how the economy was broken from week one, the only way to really get money was using what most people call exploits (i.e. Atomos).

Stopped reading right there. It is insanely easy to make money in this game if you have been here since the start.

[Renen]

Stopped reading right there. It is insanely easy to make money in this game if you have been here since the start.

Well, not insanely, but yeh... its easy

[Medura]

Stopped reading right there. It is insanely easy to make money in this game if you have been here since the start.

first week, people got 1 mill gil per leve at level 50, this is also one of those things i call exploits. it has been too many episodes like this. I didnt say it was hard getting the gil, i said the economy was broken and used atomos as an example as to why.

[Meatdawg]

first week, people got 1 mill gil per leve at level 50, this is also one of those things i call exploits. it has been too many episodes like this. I didnt say it was hard getting the gil, i said the economy was broken and used atomos as an example as to why.

So if I can mine for the same amount of time Player A was farming Atomos and make just as much money as they did by selling hq ore and crafting the nq ore into HQ ingots is this also "exploiting" ?

The only thing a new server has going for it is you all start at the same level. If i level a Miner/Fisher/Botanist to 50 first and make a fortune am I "exploiting" ?