Data Centers/World Locations Info from the LIVE Letter

[Jaimie]

Translation in a nutshell:
New servers will be set aside for new players in 2.0. Existing players will not be able to transfer into these new worlds for the time being.

On the topic of world transfers on existing servers, they will need to take into account how many non-active players will be returning by the time of the new service launch, so they will also be considering the situation in the beta tests before deciding.

And the improved ease of world transfer mentioned by Yoshi-P during the anniversary just means there will be such a system providing world transfer service set up for 2.0.

I for one, will pay for a transfer to a NA server.

Let me tell you how today's first xp party went.
log in to uldah
see shout about spiritbond party but half the message is in foreign language
do a /sh <experience point> <spiritbond> <party> <can I have it> 46 <conjurer>
get an invite from the foriegner who did earlier shout
join party
do /p <hello>
see a lot of foriegn chat and a few <hello>s
see more foriegn chat
get ported to dragonhead
do /p <thank you>
see a few <thank you>s and more foreign chat
we blitz thru towards 3rd gate
party gets split up
2 ppl die
i'm only healer in pt apparently, so it's kinda hard to pull out my magic dictionary and chat
we run back to 2 dead ppl
but aggro a tonne of shit on way
i die and all the others who can rez die
all the while i keep seeing foriegn chat

in short the current system sucks this is not an ideal world where everyone treats everyone else with respect I want a NA server, so I don't have to deal with parties like this again.


P.S. did I mention that I had recently spent over 12k on repairs and was down to 3k gil in pocket, dieing within 10 minutes of entering natalan is not my idea of fun

And all you fanbois who think SE is GOD and can do no wrong <STFU>

Muhahahaha notice how I used the auto translate dictionary for <STFU>

[Jynx]

this is not an ideal world where everyone treats everyone else with respect I want a NA server, so I don't have to deal with parties like this again.

Look at this guys, someone thinks that everyone on a NA server is going to be smart and treat him with respect.

[moriandrio]

Look at this guys, someone thinks that everyone on a NA server is going to be smart and treat him with respect.

This will never happen, doesnt matters if global/regional or what ever. But stuff like this happens less if ppl are able to talk with each other and I think thats what he wanted to point at.

I know its possible to communicate with foreigners (I have been many years in a JP linkshell in XI) too, buts it makes things alot easier.

[Tiago]

I for one, will pay for a transfer to a NA server.

Let me tell you how today's first xp party went.
log in to uldah
see shout about spiritbond party but half the message is in foreign language
do a /sh <experience point> <spiritbond> <party> <can I have it> 46 <conjurer>
get an invite from the foriegner who did earlier shout
join party
do /p <hello>
see a lot of foriegn chat and a few <hello>s
see more foriegn chat
get ported to dragonhead
do /p <thank you>
see a few <thank you>s and more foreign chat
we blitz thru towards 3rd gate
party gets split up
2 ppl die
i'm only healer in pt apparently, so it's kinda hard to pull out my magic dictionary and chat
we run back to 2 dead ppl
but aggro a tonne of shit on way
i die and all the others who can rez die
all the while i keep seeing foriegn chat

in short the current system sucks this is not an ideal world where everyone treats everyone else with respect I want a NA server, so I don't have to deal with parties like this again.


P.S. did I mention that I had recently spent over 12k on repairs and was down to 3k gil in pocket, dieing within 10 minutes of entering natalan is not my idea of fun

And all you fanbois who think SE is GOD and can do no wrong <STFU>

Muhahahaha notice how I used the auto translate dictionary for <STFU>

There's pro's and con's against Regional servers, i'll point out some for you about what you just said:

1) There will be no JP partys, yes, that means no "foreign language chats" but i'm sure if you joined a JP Party its because you were probably online at the JP prime time, so get ready to wait hours looking for party @ awkward times, because the people in your server are NA only which means the servers will be deadish during night time. As for myself, i wont join a EU server because i mostly play during night for now, if my play-time changes, i think it will be sad because i wont have many people on at my day-time range online if i join a NA server. People are just being abit selfish when telling others their points doesnt make sense and Regional servers is the way to go.

2) Because your on an NA only server you'll understand what everyone says, but that wont save you from wipes. I wiped alot of times heading to Natalan just because people (who spoke english) didnt either want to work much because they were mostly leeching at some point or because they were watching TV and playing at same time. Untill ppl get to wolfs camp or the party camp, stuff can go complicated.

3) Even on an NA server only, dont expect to be treated with respect. There are alot of people out there who doesnt respect others, and to be honest, JP's been respecting me way more than NA's and i dont know stuff about JP at all. Camping stuff/ NM wise, JP's do help each-others while alot of the NA's i mostly meet just want their stuff done and dont care about the rest.

4) With regional servers, the community will be probably mostly Regional~wise (NA's will be mostly Americans, EU's will be mostly Europeans (with over 16 diferent languages, which will be really tough to understand, which why i wont join one even being EU) JP's will be mostly Japaneses) with this, certain people that cant play for long or can only play during night-time when most NA's are asleep, there wont be any EU's which some do speak english pretty good to help with any kind of events, so if ur a awkward-time player expect to take a long time finding a group or not getting some stuff done because there wont be many ppl online to help.

5) About "in short the current system sucks this is not an ideal world where everyone treats everyone else with respect I want a NA server, so I don't have to deal with parties like this again." Which i already mentioned above but wanted to clarify, NA server wont be a FFXIV paradise world where everyone treats everyone with respect, have manners, are always going to help because ur an American citizen, No. Dont expect any of this stuff because there are dumb people everywhere which will always disrespect others and dont care anything about what u need or what's ur situation.

My reply for regional ONLY servers is no, as i stated it awhile ago in this thread, altho i'm sure it wont be ONLY servers so i'll just join either a NA server or if there are world-wide servers, i'll join a world-wide server. I dont want to learn all the European Languages to be able to actually understand some people who can barely read game-content and skip story-lines because of their lack of english knowledge and i dont think i want to have google translator open either to be able to talk with them. So EU servers will probably be full of fail, as i seen on some Aion stuff i did with people that didnt knew any english at all. It will be worst than ur Natalan party tbh.

About some advice to your current gil - You get 8 leve-quests daily, which if you do them at a high lvl camp, you'll get about 3-7k Gil as reward. If u do 8 a day you can easily get around 40k-50k a day. You can also farm materials and sell, all those stuffs. I dont think i was so low on gil as a CNJ46, even tho it was my first job to lvl to 50 back in August 2012. If you're out of gil because u spent in something you rly wanted, then start to save some gil to repair your stuff.

About SE being GOD, it is the XIV's God, they do what they want whenever they want. They totally remade the system without asking you if you wanted to, for example, get rid of arrows or not having bait as a fisherman or not getting TP by hitting mobs. You're the one who should shut up because this is a free-to-post thread where people can point what they think about this and what they think its wrong.

[Antipika]

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1) Prime time issue.
> Most of MMOs on this planet works with localized servers and players do not complaint about this. Non-issue. Only issue if you have either an activity with a "non standard" schedule (working during the night etc.), or no activity at all and plays 16 hours a day. I work 9 to 6, I don't care about finding people online at 3am, just like many players in here. The life around you is organized around this. Why does school starts at ~8am and ends at ~6pm? Same for work. Same for everything. Do you watch the news at 3am? Do you watch sports (in your country) at 3am? Nope. Why would I play a MMO at 3am? Some may want to, but that's a minority, a global policy shouldn't be based on a minority.

2) Wipes
> No one ever said that speaking the same language prevents wiping. It does helps however to reduce misunderstanding and thus wiping.

3) Respect
> Doesn't matter where you go, you'll always find stupid people could they be JP, NA or EU. But when they speak JP (or French/German) and you don't understand them, obviously, you can't tell if you are being treated with respect or not.

Actually in XI, I remember not even being treated at all when I was in JP parties (day time in Europe/JP prime). Everyone was speaking JP, I would just listen to music and ignore the chat. Best social interaction ever. Using pre-constructed sentences. My cat expresses more feeling than a JP player just saying {Hello !}, {Congratulations !} every time someone levels up and {See you again!} when party disband.

(And don't get me wrong on this, I was in a LS with JP players, and some were trying to speak English and we were getting along fine, but in general, the language barrier would simply prevent social interaction. Auto-translate != social interaction.)

4) EU languages + time
> "16 languages" is a complete over statement, English/German/French will be dominant outside Guilds that specialize in a specific language. There are chances that you end up in a party where everyone speaks Russian, Italian or Novergian, but that will be very rare, unless you are in a group with players from the same Linkshells.

[Tiago]

Reply to: Antipika, since i put reply and it didnt get a name up here.

As i already said, the community will be divided by language, so yeah, ls's will be mostly language linkshells, just like now there are JP Ls's French Ls's Geman Ls's and we havent moved to regional servers yet, so think about it on EU servers with so many languages.

I do play during my night-time. I start playing at around end of afternoon, start of night, and play till around 5-6am. That's a problem if i join EU servers unless i want to solo most of the stuff and not be able to enter 2+ members dungeons, etc.

Speaking the same language in a way of understanding rly well the strategy, prevents wipes, doesnt it? I think it does so people will expect what to find inside the dungeon/boss fight and know what to do about it.

Respect is something EU's will never have mostly, because if ppl want to talk trash about you, they'll do it in their language and mostly, if u ask what they are saying, they'll ignore and leave. Happened alot on my Aion play-time and will happen here too because XIV is no diferent from other MMO's community~wise. It wont change people.

So like u hated to not be understanded in those partys of JP's back in XI, and wasnt able to understand them at all, you figure we'll like to be in that boat almost everytime when friends of the same ls's put on exp groups and just pick-up 1-2 people because they need a full party for full buffs and more exp, and some ppl that actually wanted to exp but none on his ls wanted to, join that pre-made pt of that other ls and get's ignored all the time and doesnt understand shiz about what they are saying? (Being ls's mostly divided by language~wise i think its easy to expect them talking a total unknown language to some).

About the "dominant languages" you speak of, of those 3 i know english, but i also know Portuguese, which is my main language. Should i just say stuff in portuguese and hope them to understand me? I mean, if they dont know english, all i could do is try my luck in Portuguese.

[Antipika]

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Why would languages be an issue on an EU server and not on a Global Server? On a Global server as of now, I cannot understand half of the players straight up, yeah the JP players. Add to that all non-EN speaking players (luckily I can understand French on top of English). An EU server will never ever be made of more than 50% of non-EN speakers (yeah the average French or German player is more likely to speak enough English than the average JP player).

[Tiago]

Why would languages be an issue on an EU server and not on a Global Server? On a Global server as of now, I cannot understand half of the players straight up, yeah the JP players. Add to that all non-EN speaking players (luckily I can understand French on top of English). An EU server will never ever be made of more than 50% of non-EN speakers (yeah the average French or German player is more likely to speak enough English than the average JP player).

Did i said Language is not an issue on the global servers? Altho the main language every1 else speaks is mostly English (some do not speak it too well but still). In EU servers it will be a much more bigger mix of languages, and you understand french, but i dont. You're being selfish when your comparing World-wide servers to EU only servers, the community that speaks english well enough to do stuff will be less than it is right now, and you only want ur NA servers because everyone will speak english and tehre wont be any JP. As i said that's being selfish because you want ur language issues to be solved but they will be bigger on another regional servers such as EU's.

[Antipika]

Did i said Language is not an issue on the global servers? Altho the main language every1 else speaks is mostly English (some do not speak it too well but still). In EU servers it will be a much more bigger mix of languages, and you understand french, but i dont. You're being selfish when your comparing World-wide servers to EU only servers, the community that speaks english well enough to do stuff will be less than it is right now, and you only want ur NA servers because everyone will speak english and tehre wont be any JP. As i said that's being selfish because you want ur language issues to be solved but they will be bigger on another regional servers such as EU's.

It's not about being selfish, it's about being rational. What you have a hard time to understand are the two following statement:

- If I can speak English, I have more chance to find players who speaks English on an EU server than on a Global Server.

- If I cannot speak English or Japanese, I have more chance to find people speaking my language on an EU server than a Global Server.

It's all about the population breakdown. On a Global Server, half of players doesn't even speak EN. It's easy, if that server have 10 000 players, you already exclude 5 000 of them...

That would not happen on an EU server. The proportion (again that's the -only- thing that matters) of players speaking EN will always be higher than on a global server. Bonus, for minorities (like Russian, Italian etc.), they have actually a chance to build a small community on an EU server, while if all Italian or Russian are located on different Global Servers, there won't be enough of them per server (again, % of players) in order to make a Linkshell.