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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    "I require add-ons to defeat high end raid bosses. Why? 'cause I'm a pro raider"
    can you quote where i've said that? oh right, no, i didn't say that. that's just your attempt at misrepresenting my position (straw man) to bolster your otherwise baseless argument.

    but do you really really want to get into what we have and haven't done in this game without mods? i have a strong feeling it's going to backfire and make your argument look really, really silly. but we can do that dance if you like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Priya View Post
    WHAT? HOW DID A FUSIONAL POST GET QUOTED IN HERE?!?! MY BRAIN (or heart) JACKED MY KEYBOARD!
    ohhi. fancy meeting you here ;3
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    Perrina Avolara
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    can you quote where i've said that? oh right, no, i didn't say that. that's just your attempt at misrepresenting my position (straw man) to bolster your otherwise baseless argument.
    No, actually it's not a strawman. I wasn't quoting you directly. I was, however, addressing the overall tone of your post. Specifically this part:
    "the best raiders are the ones who come prepared. that means having the right tools to analyze and parse the battle and your performance in it, and the right tools to improve/enhance your personal performance in it."

    You're referring to "the best raiders" as being the ones who use addons... what you refer to as "tools" (euphemisms, euphemisms). In short, you're stating that the best raiders use addons. I find that to be completely laughable for all the reasons I outline in my response. If requiring addons (or guides or templates) to succeed at a fight makes one a "best raider", then the word "best" doesn't mean a whole lot.

    If someone wants to say "I use addons to make winning the fight a bit easier or more manageable", then fine. That's a valid reason. But to say "I use addons because I'm one of the best raiders" is a pathetic case of self-delusion.

    Speaking of strawmen, though, the latter half of that post I responded to is pretty much comprised of them. Maybe you should review your own remarks before attempting to criticize others, yes?
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 09-25-2012 at 09:45 AM.