All Worlds Emergency Maintenance (Sep. 20)

[Amherst]

Yes True it does generate extra Gil but cannot call it an exploit seeing as their is an achievement for gaining 500k gc seals which cannot be obtained without going through your stack of 50k seals at least 10 different times which means you have to buys things and you will also have to sell some of the things you buy

...are you really trying to say that this ISN'T an exploit? The fact that people were selling GC items had NOTHING to do with the seal achievement. Even if it is well intentioned, stop trying to play devil's advocate here. It doesn't work.

[DemonFury]

...are you really trying to say that this ISN'T an exploit? The fact that people were selling GC items had NOTHING to do with the seal achievement. Even if it is well intentioned, stop trying to play devil's advocate here. It doesn't work.

makes no difference whether or not they are getting gil or not they are still going to get hit by a 90% reduction of that said gil so let them think that they are actually making money when they are not why do you care so much ?

as stated in this post http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...748#post831748

[Kerwin]

SE can save everyone from the speculation train if they just release info earlier on the fixes. Oh yeah and not cut into NA's Prime time. It wouldn't kill em to do it on JP prime time for once.

[Orophin]

Yes True it does generate extra Gil but cannot call it an exploit seeing as their is an achievement for gaining 500k gc seals which cannot be obtained without going through your stack of 50k seals at least 10 different times which means you have to buys things and you will also have to sell some of the things you buy

Pretty sure it wasn't intended to do that achievement within a period of three days either. Some achievements like that are long term.

makes no difference whether or not they are getting gil or not they are still going to get hit by a 90% reduction of that said gil so let them think that they are actually making money when they are not why do you care so much ?

And it does matter, because there are guaranteed to be people generating money they would have never had just due to their normal activities. Some people refuse to craft and gather and would have had to make that money from alternative means and probably at a much slower rate. Now with them having this much more money, they have more buying power which can have the potential to drive up prices if the supply is not high enough to meet demand.

[Amherst]

makes no difference whether or not they are getting gil or not they are still going to get hit by a 90% reduction of that said gil so let them think that they are actually making money when they are not why do you care so much ?

I really don't think you understand how that reduction is going to work. If everything is getting reduced by 9/10ths, and everything is - vendor price, rewards, leve gil, item cost, current gil in game - then it still has the exact same value. It's only scaled down by one digit. The only unknown factor is the user market, and while people may be trying to sell everything at 1.0 prices at first eventually undercutting and market competition will balance it out.

So, to answer your question, I care because it's broken and I don't want the in-game economy to become any more of a mess than it already is.

Edit: Okay, seriously? From that link you decided to edit into your post.

In other words, all the hard work you've put into saving up gil won't be lost.

[DemonFury]

I really don't think you understand how that reduction is going to work. If everything is getting reduced by 9/10ths, and everything is - vendor price, rewards, leve gil, item cost, current gil in game - then it still has the exact same value. It's only scaled down by one digit. The only unknown factor is the user market, and while people may be trying to sell everything at 1.0 prices at first eventually undercutting and market competition will balance it out.

So, to answer your question, I care because it's broken and I don't want the in-game economy to become any more of a mess than it already is.

the only mess of the econ is in 1.0 and that is mainly due to them releasing the information that they are going to reduce everyones gil by 90% come 2.0 which created a mass panic and so people are either buying up everything they possibly can or trying to sell off and save as much as they can before 2.0 gets released so this was SE's announcement that caused the econ to go nuts and not a thing you or anyone here can do to stop the effects of this atm so might as well just ride the wave like everyone else hang on tight and see how it turns out come 2.0....

[Vaer]

They should have shut this down the first time they hotfixed it by making dawn drops npc price 1 gil each if they were going to do anything about it.

The thing I don't understand is if this is an obvious exploit why would they sit there for almost a damn week and "watch" (based on the wording of the post by Yoshi on this topic) billions of gil enter the economy every couple of days then decide a week later wake up "oops we done goofed."

They need to handle stuff like this and Garuda better.

[darkstarpoet1]

the only mess of the econ is in 1.0 and that is mainly due to them releasing the information that they are going to reduce everyones gil by 90% come 2.0 which created a mass panic and so people are either buying up everything they possibly can or trying to sell off and save as much as they can before 2.0 gets released so this was SE's announcement that caused the econ to go nuts and not a thing you or anyone here can do to stop the effects of this atm so might as well just ride the wave like everyone else hang on tight and see how it turns out come 2.0....

actually this is just completely wrong in many ways.

1. the economy has driven up prices due to this event.

2. the price hike will carry over til 2.0 because that is the starting point.

3. this has been treated like a stimulus package by many, but the truth about a stimulus is that they are short term economy boosts with long term negative side effects.

4. people have alot more gil then they should have because they were using the printing press to magically make more gil go into the game than was going out. this is long term inflation no matter how you look at it.

[Amherst]

the only mess of the econ is in 1.0

That's some pretty impressive clairvoyance you have there.

and that is mainly due to them releasing the information that they are going to reduce everyones gil by 90% come 2.0 which created a mass panic and so people are either buying up everything they possibly can or trying to sell off and save as much as they can before 2.0 gets released so this was SE's announcement that caused the econ to go nuts and not a thing you or anyone here can do to stop the effects of this atm so might as well just ride the wave like everyone else hang on tight and see how it turns out come 2.0....

Wonder what game you've been playing for the last two years. Because it sure as hell isn't the same one as me.

If you want to take advantage of the massive gil generation from Atomos then just admit it, but don't try and come up with a flimsy justification for it. You people act like it's comparable to someone catching you with porn or something.

[Molly_Millions]

They should have shut this down the first time they hotfixed it by making dawn drops npc price 1 gil each if they were going to do anything about it.

The thing I don't understand is if this is an obvious exploit why would they sit there for almost a damn week and "watch" (based on the wording of the post by Yoshi on this topic) billions of gil enter the economy every couple of days then decide a week later wake up "oops we done goofed."

They need to handle stuff like this and Garuda better.

I agree. They need to do their due diligence and think about the consequences of events like these BEFORE they make it to the players.

As soon as the GC seals were released the first question that was asked in my LS was "how can I turn these seals into gil?" Buy drops and trade them to an npc was the answer. Atmos just made it MUCH more appealing to spend time doing that.