HQ-ing Rose Gold Ingots from 0 Quality

[AmyNeudaiz]

This is my set up, I get pretty good results from it on higher level synths.

Careful synth until rainbow orb > Byregot's Blessing + Perfection* > Culmination** > Continue Careful synth until you get to under 11 durability > Masters Meld > Careful synth 3-4 times*** > Greater Calling > Rapid synth.

Congratulations you now have maxed your quality gain on a high level synthesis.

*They stack and it doesn't eat up a turn on your Byregot's Blessing
**Use while Byregot's Blessing is still active but if the next orb is yellow or white after Perfection I wait until the 3rd final turn of Byregot's to use Culmination
***Stop when you drop under 11 durability unless you are willing to risk your synth. Max loss is 10, min loss is 7 for careful synthesis.


-Side notes: My reason for this is that the BB + Perfection and Culmination combo gives you quality gains equal to 4 Great Success actions from careful synthesis and you get to control when you use it so you can max out your quality gain by using it on rainbow orb which gives you max quality output which should be around 130-160 quality per great success on rainbow orb. This also lowers your chance slightly of having your synthesis go unstable since rainbow orb has the highest chance of synthesis action failure and instability. On a higher level synth, you can't do better to my knowledge/experience.
Also for stats I'd take your control to at least 150~160 (160 being optimal, 150 being lowest you can get away with) and I'd take both Crafts and Mag Crafts above 120 at the very least, you will more than likely have to use food to get to this mark, and I suggest you lean your gear towards Crafts so you can make up in Mag Crafts with food since it is several times cheaper (I used Mulled Tea, it's cheap and good). This is much harder to do without a HQ tool with even just a single meld, so I suggest looking into one. You can dip down on the control to about 140 if you are feeling like risking an unstable for more Crafts/Mag Crafts for a higher end % on HQ.
It's also important to look into materia and jewelry for DEX (but not giving up your GC ring for a DEX ring) the increase isn't too much, but every bit counts.
In my opinion, this is a great way to make money since the NQ ores are cheap and HQ rose gold is expensive. Even if you can only pull 10% you will end up gaining in profit by a fairly good amount or save yourself a lot of gil if you were not planning on selling it.


Please feel free to leave feedback on my thoughts/experience if anyone has any experiences of their own. I hope this helps!

[Lavieh]

This is my set up, I get pretty good results from it on higher level synths.

Careful synth until rainbow orb > Byregot's Blessing + Perfection* > Culmination** > Continue Careful synth until you get to under 11 durability > Masters Meld > Careful synth 3-4 times*** > Greater Calling > Rapid synth.

Congratulations you now have maxed your quality gain on a high level synthesis.

*They stack and it doesn't eat up a turn on your Byregot's Blessing
**Use while Byregot's Blessing is still active but if the next orb is yellow or white after Perfection I wait until the 3rd final turn of Byregot's to use Culmination
***Stop when you drop under 11 durability unless you are willing to risk your synth. Max loss is 10, min loss is 7.


-Side notes: My reason for this is that the BB + Perfection and Culmination combo gives you quality gains equal to 4 Great Success actions from careful synthesis and you get to control when you use it so you can max out your quality gain by using it on rainbow orb which gives you max quality output which should be around 130-160 quality per great success on rainbow orb. This also lowers your chance slightly of having your synthesis go unstable since rainbow orb has the highest chance of synthesis action failure and instability. On a higher level synth, you can't do better to my knowledge/experience.
Also for stats I'd take your control to at least 150~160 (160 being optimal, 150 being lowest you can get away with) and I'd take both Crafts and Mag Crafts above 120 at the very least, you will more than likely have to use food to get to this mark, and I suggest you lean your gear towards Crafts so you can make up in Mag Crafts with food since it is several times cheaper (I used Mulled Tea, it's cheap and good). This is much harder to do without a HQ tool with even just a single meld, so I suggest looking into one. You can dip down on the control to about 140 if you are feeling like risking an unstable for more Crafts/Mag Crafts for a higher end % on HQ.
It's also important to look into materia and jewelry for DEX (but not giving up your GC ring for a DEX ring) the increase isn't too much, but every bit counts.
In my opinion, this is a great way to make money since the NQ ores are cheap and HQ rose gold is expensive. Even if you can only pull 10% you will end up gaining in profit by a fairly good amount or save yourself a lot of gil if you were not planning on selling it.


Please feel free to leave feedback on my thoughts/experience if anyone has any experiences of their own. I hope this helps!

Just going off your last statement. I did switch around my skillset to try and utilize Perfection but I found that I was usually 100~ quality lower than my normal quality when I used something like Heart&Soul/ Purification. Its seems that the difference between a failed Purification/Byregots on a Rainbow vs a Greater success byregots on a rainbow is very minimal and enough to sway me to try for purification incase of a success. I guess that is more of a gamble though, like using Magnum Opus.

There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat though xD.

[AmyNeudaiz]

Just going off your last statement. I did switch around my skillset to try and utilize Perfection but I found that I was usually 100~ quality lower than my normal quality when I used something like Heart&Soul/ Purification. Its seems that the difference between a failed Purification/Byregots on a Rainbow vs a Greater success byregots on a rainbow is very minimal and enough to sway me to try for purification incase of a success. I guess that is more of a gamble though, like using Magnum Opus.

There is definitely more than one way to skin a cat though xD.

I will have to look into your set up more tomorrow when I have some time and I've had some good sleep but there's a few questions I'd like to ask about your set up, because to me it seems like a gamble on top of a gamble.
How often does Purification fail? How often do you go unstable? What is your max, min and averaged quality increase using your set up? How much would you say dlvl effects your set up? What are your stats at (including dex) and what gear do you use exactly? I'm asking these questions because I would like to replicate your set up as closely as possible to properly test your set up so I would appreciate it if you give me an accurate reply to this.

[SzaaKarna]

***Stop when you drop under 11 durability unless you are willing to risk your synth. Max loss is 10, min loss is 7.

I know I've lost at least 11, I'm pretty sure I've lost 12 at least once

[Aratharn]

I know I've lost at least 11, I'm pretty sure I've lost 12 at least once

She means for Careful. Careful minimum loss is 7 max is 10.

[AmyNeudaiz]

She means for Careful. Careful minimum loss is 7 max is 10.

This is exactly what I meant, thank you for the clarification. I edited my post to be more clear.

Also, in my set up you do not need to standard synthesis at all. You should be able to get to 60+ progress on careful only and the rest is finished with Greater Calling and x3 rapid synthesis.

[SzaaKarna]

gotcha. thanks

[Guevara]

This is my set up, I get pretty good results from it on higher level synths.

Careful synth until rainbow orb > Byregot's Blessing + Perfection* > Culmination** > Continue Careful synth until you get to under 11 durability > Masters Meld > Careful synth 3-4 times*** > Greater Calling > Rapid synth.

Congratulations you now have maxed your quality gain on a high level synthesis.

*They stack and it doesn't eat up a turn on your Byregot's Blessing
**Use while Byregot's Blessing is still active but if the next orb is yellow or white after Perfection I wait until the 3rd final turn of Byregot's to use Culmination
***Stop when you drop under 11 durability unless you are willing to risk your synth. Max loss is 10, min loss is 7 for careful synthesis.


-Side notes: My reason for this is that the BB + Perfection and Culmination combo gives you quality gains equal to 4 Great Success actions from careful synthesis and you get to control when you use it so you can max out your quality gain by using it on rainbow orb which gives you max quality output which should be around 130-160 quality per great success on rainbow orb. This also lowers your chance slightly of having your synthesis go unstable since rainbow orb has the highest chance of synthesis action failure and instability. On a higher level synth, you can't do better to my knowledge/experience.
Also for stats I'd take your control to at least 150~160 (160 being optimal, 150 being lowest you can get away with) and I'd take both Crafts and Mag Crafts above 120 at the very least, you will more than likely have to use food to get to this mark, and I suggest you lean your gear towards Crafts so you can make up in Mag Crafts with food since it is several times cheaper (I used Mulled Tea, it's cheap and good). This is much harder to do without a HQ tool with even just a single meld, so I suggest looking into one. You can dip down on the control to about 140 if you are feeling like risking an unstable for more Crafts/Mag Crafts for a higher end % on HQ.
It's also important to look into materia and jewelry for DEX (but not giving up your GC ring for a DEX ring) the increase isn't too much, but every bit counts.
In my opinion, this is a great way to make money since the NQ ores are cheap and HQ rose gold is expensive. Even if you can only pull 10% you will end up gaining in profit by a fairly good amount or save yourself a lot of gil if you were not planning on selling it.


Please feel free to leave feedback on my thoughts/experience if anyone has any experiences of their own. I hope this helps!

I'm curious about your equip. Doing a careful search on mb.com, I found this as the best equip to fit your advice:

BODY Flame Sergeant's Apron
HEAD Pince-nez
WAIST Linen Half Apron
LEGS Flame Sergeant's Sarouel
FEET Flame Sergeant's Crakows
HANDS Felt Halfgloves
EARRING Coral Earrings
NECKLACE Electrum Choker
BRACELET N/A
RING Flamebringer's Ring
TOOL Electrum Lapidary Hammer + 2 Craftsman's Competence Materia IV (+6)
FOOD Mulled Tea


with this equip you would have: 161 Control; 99 Mg. Craft. (with food mod. added); 124 Craft.

What do you use?

Thanks.


EDIT: Don't know stats for a +1 tool; that would add up.

[AmyNeudaiz]

I'm curious about your equip. Doing a careful search on mb.com, I found this as the best equip to fit your advice:

BODY Flame Sergeant's Apron
HEAD Pince-nez
WAIST Linen Half Apron
LEGS Flame Sergeant's Sarouel
FEET Flame Sergeant's Crakows
HANDS Felt Halfgloves
EARRING Coral Earrings
NECKLACE Electrum Choker
BRACELET N/A
RING Flamebringer's Ring
TOOL Electrum Lapidary Hammer + 2 Craftsman's Competence Materia IV (+6)
FOOD Mulled Tea


with this equip you would have: 161 Control; 99 Mg. Craft. (with food mod. added); 124 Craft.

What do you use?

Thanks.


EDIT: Don't know stats for a +1 tool; that would add up.

I personally don't have GSM, but the stats I go by for this is a friend of mine who I helped get their set up. His gear sits at 116 Craft 128 Mag Craft and 157 Control. He uses Full GC set w/ Flames ring, Explorer's Belt, HQ Dex ring/wrist, HQ Coral Earrings, HQ Electrum Choker and a HQ tool with +5 control. This is optimal for GSM, different tools require different set ups and materia on the tool.
You have to use Craftsmanship food with this set up on GSM.

[Guevara]

Thank you Amy