Obtaining summons

[Ruisu]

I was really hoping on Summoner having it's own unique summons different from the primals. Kinda bummed that's not the case, but with the way jobs currently work, it may work similarly to Folklore, which I fucking loved.

It'll be interesting to see, at least.

[Siegtaru]

I'm sure that like in XI, Summoners will be considered a forbidden job class and such, they were never accepted by "society" in XI. That's why you got all of your AF quests and such from Carbuncle in an empty house... ;3

[Blueyes]

I agree with what they meant by Carbuncle being Arcanist only they simply meant summoning Carbuncle won't be a cross class skill. Like when looking at this wiki here it says Cura and Curaga require Conjurer, but that doesn't mean White Mage doesn't have access to those skills.

If quests end up being necessary to obtain the other avatars I don't imagine they would have people fight the primals themselves. At most I imagine we would fight the same lesser essence beings that we would be summoning.

[Ninja-Mage]

I agree with what they meant by Carbuncle being Arcanist only they simply meant summoning Carbuncle won't be a cross class skill. Like when looking at this wiki here it says Cura and Curaga require Conjurer, but that doesn't mean White Mage doesn't have access to those skills.

If quests end up being necessary to obtain the other avatars I don't imagine they would have people fight the primals themselves. At most I imagine we would fight the same lesser essence beings that we would be summoning.

Ah I hope we fight them ourselves personally. Half the fun of summoner back in the 11 days was going out and fighting the six avatars with just Carbuncle.

[Blueyes]

True. In FFXI I vowed to not get high level help and solo each of them myself, but I'm pretty sure SE wants to stick with them maintaining their god-like status this time around and will probably keep them as super bosses without toning them down for Summoner's sake. Fighting the avatar essences would have a similar feel, but probably more realistic.

Although I suppose it possible that we might fight the actual primals. Taking a look at the wiki it looks like with the first Ifrit fight he's level 35 which would be an appropriate boss challenge for a level 30 Summoner quest. I suppose it could go either way or maybe fighting them won't be necessary at all.

In any case it should be interesting, but I do hope they have Arcanist in the 2.0 beta. It's their first pet class and I think it would be in their best interest to let people test it out to make sure they get it right.

[Ninja-Mage]

True. In FFXI I vowed to not get high level help and solo each of them myself, but I'm pretty sure SE wants to stick with them maintaining their god-like status this time around and will probably keep them as super bosses without toning them down for Summoner's sake. Fighting the avatar essences would have a similar feel, but probably more realistic.

Although I suppose it possible that we might fight the actual primals. Taking a look at the wiki it looks like with the first Ifrit fight he's level 35 which would be an appropriate boss challenge for a level 30 Summoner quest. I suppose it could go either way or maybe fighting them won't be necessary at all.

In any case it should be interesting, but I do hope they have Arcanist in the 2.0 beta. It's their first pet class and I think it would be in their best interest to let people test it out to make sure they get it right.

Back in the FFXI days I actually wrote and drew a comic about a summoner. I came up with a system that was different then the usual for how this character obtained his summons as six fights just seemed kind of boring to draw.

What if each primal gave us a test, and the test would be something in relation to the primal. Like for example Titan would be a test of strength, Leviathan would be a test of intelligence. So on and so forth. Granted only titan's example made sense lol but I forgot what the tests I came up with way back when were.