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  1. #81
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    That's not the servers problem it's the scant population of the game in general.
    Uh no, it's not "scant population. there's clearly plenty of people hanging around in town (I can see them) and clearly many people forming groups to do things- Just as many as I see during peak NA hours. This isn't about lack of people. It's about lack of people that *I* can play with.

    Who are you to tell me what I can and can't do?
    I'm not telling you what you can and cant do. However, given your random hours and amount of time available, it can be very difficult to play MMORPGs and experience a lot of what they have to offer. This is a simple truth- not an order or command as to what you should do. So please stop declaring me shortsighted when you can't even read my comments correctly. I don't even understand because I don't see how it even sounded like I'm "telling you what to do."

    Alhanelem, Some people just love Global servers, Some people don't want to change for the better ( since I said that I'll be getting a post in a bit as to why it isn't better :P). Its like people not accepting the Offline FF change that FF is going through, and people can't let go of the turned based JRPG they had many moons ago.
    To be clear, I really don't have anything against global servers. But in the long run, I feel like my game experience will be better with a regional server, for various reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I'm not telling you what you can and cant do. However, given your random hours and amount of time available, it can be very difficult to play MMORPGs and experience a lot of what they have to offer.
    Not if it's on a global server it's not.

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    Dude, you totally already know everything about ARR and what kind of content is going to be available to players?! Sweeet!!

    So you don't agree that Content finder gives the developers alot more reasons to instance content? I'm amazed that using base logic is a form of time travel.
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    Not if it's on a global server it's not.
    It has nothing to do with a global server. If your playtime is as random as you say, it's near impossible to have a reliable group to do more difficult content with. If all you want to do is level and common stuff, you're fine I guess, but good luck with anything else. You don't have to have global servers to have people to play with at all hours of the day. I've played many random MMOs, ranging from WoW to MapleStory. Most them have plenty of people on the servers at all hours- and WoW and Maplestory are both region locked- not just regionAL. This is NOT going to be a problem for you regardless of server unless the game fails at its new launch.

    Also as a side note, "global" pretty much never includes China, as they basically require that any game service in china be for china only. So technically, you only get to pick from about 5 out of 6~7 billion people on the planet.

    So you don't agree that Content finder gives the developers alot more reasons to instance content?
    I don't disagree, but I don't see a problem with this either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It has nothing to do with a global server. If your playtime is as random as you say, it's near impossible to have a reliable group to do more difficult content with.
    How is it near impossible to know people in multiple time zones when you play multiple time zones?

    It's nice that I could belong to multiple endgame shells because they never had conflicting interests due to the time differences. Of course I needed a shell that accepted my time situation but it was rarely a issue finding people to group or party with at any time of day.

    Your assumptions about how hard it is to know people in multiple time zones is incorrect. It's as easy/hard as it is to know people on a single time zone. Sure I knew less people who were "on at the same time" but I had a handfull of people or shells to turn to at any givin situation. I know a few people in my situation such as Army personell and they rarely had issues on XI either.

    It could be because Odin was so populated it had to be closed off, but it was a tight knit community at all hours of the day. You had as much JP onry ass-hatery as you did NA players being jerks to JP's as well, it's not a single nationality or group of players that are assholes it's just not as apparent when you can "Tollerate" a person being a jack-ass in english when a person being a douche in a different language is a bit more frustrating.

    *edit*

    Again you continue to make assumptions about how people in my situation fair in the game. You tell me it would be near impossible to do things when it was far from the truth. I'm not trying to be rude but I know what it's like to be in a situation like mine more than you do.

    Also it wasn't just Odin I made a server transfer to Pheonix in my later years of XI and still had few isues finding people to play with.

    On the vien of you "I played WoW and Mapplestory and there were "Plenty" of people online at oddball hours" I can guarantee you that "Plenty" of people is a far cry from the thousand or so people I could find online in XI at any givin time of day.

    Just because you apparantly can't find a way to play with players from different regions of the world doesn't mean we all do. (I again strongly remind you I speak very little Japanese and I played with German, Korean, and players from other nationalities as well) and maintained good relations with many of them after I left XI.
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    I dont mind the lag, just let me play with everyone.
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    This is really sad day for FFXIV. Now currently the EU players have a EU only server and once prime times over guess what, players that are on cant get much done. Now this will happen with a NA server as well once prime times over guess what, you wont get anything done. With a global community you can login at anytime and get things done and thats because there are multiple prime times. In my honest opinion yoshi is gonna end up killing FFXIV with the direction he is taking this game. I will give it 1 year after 2.0 launches unless he changes his course now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    How is it near impossible to know people in multiple time zones when you play multiple time zones?

    It's nice that I could belong to multiple endgame shells because they never had conflicting interests due to the time differences. Of course I needed a shell that accepted my time situation but it was rarely a issue finding people to group or party with at any time of day.

    Your assumptions about how hard it is to know people in multiple time zones is incorrect. It's as easy/hard as it is to know people on a single time zone. Sure I knew less people who were "on at the same time" but I had a handfull of people or shells to turn to at any givin situation. I know a few people in my situation such as Army personell and they rarely had issues on XI either.

    It could be because Odin was so populated it had to be closed off, but it was a tight knit community at all hours of the day. You had as much JP onry ass-hatery as you did NA players being jerks to JP's as well, it's not a single nationality or group of players that are assholes it's just not as apparent when you can "Tollerate" a person being a jack-ass in english when a person being a douche in a different language is a bit more frustrating.

    *edit*

    Again you continue to make assumptions about how people in my situation fair in the game. You tell me it would be near impossible to do things when it was far from the truth. I'm not trying to be rude but I know what it's like to be in a situation like mine more than you do.

    Also it wasn't just Odin I made a server transfer to Pheonix in my later years of XI and still had few isues finding people to play with.

    On the vien of you "I played WoW and Mapplestory and there were "Plenty" of people online at oddball hours" I can guarantee you that "Plenty" of people is a far cry from the thousand or so people I could find online in XI at any givin time of day.

    Just because you apparantly can't find a way to play with players from different regions of the world doesn't mean we all do. (I again strongly remind you I speak very little Japanese and I played with German, Korean, and players from other nationalities as well) and maintained good relations with many of them after I left XI.
    Wait, you were on odin!?! oooo I wonder if we played together

    What was your name, and ls?
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    "I feel like my game experience will be better with a regional server, for various reasons."

    I assume you have low playtime so you want wow-type content which only takes about 1-2hrs/week/character to complete, then all these people you see sitting around in town, are doing just that, that crap kinda works in wow because it forces you to constantly make new characters and replay the same content (which is the only way you can physically play relevant content "all day")

    FF11 had tones of content that could be played around the clock, it never ended, my ls had NA/EU/JP divisions (generally 50-60members), events never stopped, if you logged on at 2am, you had a group, 4pm, had a group, 9pm, had a group.

    Its amazing that some really dont think regional servers will segregate the population (i really dont think they believe this, they are just playing dumb because they personally have low play time, and if all servers have an average prime time of about 3hrs, content will reflect it just like in wow, every character only takes about 1-2hrs of actually play time every week to win the current raids) but when new people join the game, and they see:
    NA
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    as server list, where would you go if you lived in NA? Obviously not where NA people are. ~HERPDERP

    "New" people to the game will 99% of the time pick the server that is set for their area, it will happen, and im fairly sure you know this, and because of this, if a NA ls went to say an EU server, over time the ls would prob die unless no one in the ls every quits... ever. There simply will not be enough people in that time zone after a fairly short amount of time. Not saying 0 NA's will ever go to an EU server or something, but the only reason would be if thier play time called for it, which would also be based around EU prime time (as new players), and the chances of them being "endgame worthy" is kinda low to start with considering such a small amount of NA's even do endgame.
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    Last edited by Jeronlmo; 09-16-2012 at 03:50 PM.

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    I assume you have low playtime so you want wow-type content which only takes about
    You assume incorrectly. I have high playtime and want any kind of good challenging content, duration irrelevant. I don't even understand how you could possibly make those kinds of assumptions based on the quoted statement. Why does "I think my game experience will be better on a regional server" say to you "you must like wow and noobie content that can be done in 5 min?"

    Its amazing that some really dont think regional servers will segregate the population
    Segregation is a forced act of seperation. This isn't segregation. Yes, most people will pick a server in their region. People keep throwing around the word segregation like this is early 1900s america and black people aren't allowed to use the white water fountain. You still have the choice to play on the server you want.

    (I again strongly remind you I speak very little Japanese and I played with German, Korean, and players from other nationalities as well
    I did play with players of other languages. it's not impossible, but it's much more difficult than with people who speak the same language as you. I don't care what languages you spoke, or what nationalities they were from. It's a simple fact that it's easier to play with people who are active when you are, speak your language, etc. I have nothing against anyone of any language, nation race or anything else. I feel like you're making an implication of racism on my part.


    Also it wasn't just Odin I made a server transfer to Pheonix in my later years of XI and still had few isues finding people to play with.
    When you make a server transfer to <insert server here> I guarantee you you won't have any harder time than you're having now, even if it's not a "global" server. I'd even be tempted to put money on it.

    Jynx, you really don't make any sense, I'm giving up talking to you directly, or this is just going to be a battle that never ends. You don't seem to realize how rare and unusual your personal situation is. I'm sorry that this gives you a bit of a raw deal, but many people will benefit from it.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 09-16-2012 at 04:00 PM.

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    you have the choise, so stay in your international (jp) server. You have choise. But accept that there are people who appreciate EU servers
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