So I can't play and tell with EU/NA/JP friends in ARR...

[Starlord]

Actually it does apply. SE very likely has their own ASN for BGP peering and route announcements. Assuming they build data centers in two other regions, they could perform BGP route announcements in such a way that reduces transit time.

Yep I agree, It does relate to what Yoshida is actually trying to pull off, with Data centers being in different regions ( AS1, AS2,AS3 etc etc) and which every the "Customer" is the closest too, ( in that diagram being AS5), will be the Customers go to Data center. ( that is of course if I'm reading the diagram correctly )

[Mijin]

I didn't bash you, you called him out for using google search when you was doing the same thing...I never said it was wrong to use it. You said it was wrong to use google search for claims then in turn did it your self..... I was asking him a question cause i looked up what network peering was and i got linked tot hat photo...

No, I said his information was the result of misunderstanding google search results. I support people using google before they post.

[Mijin]

Actually it does apply. SE very likely has their own ASN for BGP peering and route announcements. Assuming they build data centers in two other regions, they could perform BGP route announcements in such a way that reduces transit time.

Well now your contradicting yourself. That's an illustration of interconnection and peering of autonomous systems, and you said the solution was a leased line. That illustration has literally nothing to do with this discussion.

You may also be interested to know that leased lines only exist in USA, UK, India, Hong Kong, and Italy.

[AarosLunos]

Well now your contradicting yourself. That's an illustration of interconnection and peering of autonomous systems and you said the solution was a leased line. That illustration has literally nothing to do with this discussion.

You may also be interested to know that leased lined only exist in USA, UK, India, Hong Kong, and Italy.

Incorrect leased lines can be built as virtual circuits attached to a physical interface. So they can be bundled over one physical medium and specific traffic shaping rules assigned. They are used all the time for over trans-oceanic fiber. I've configured plenty for domestic AND international clients.

It doesn't matter what the physical medium is since its piggy backed onto a physical interface at the router level. Its one of many ways to optimize routing. BGP route announcements (public and private) and leased lines can and often are used in conjunction. One common use is reducing the number of routers your traffic passes through while announcing your public IP address space to both ends of the leased line. BGP in itself doesn't optimize routing. That is done through peering agreements. BGP just announces the that addressable IPs are attached to a specific AS.

IF SE has peering agreements with specific providers it is possible they can change their BGP announcements to reduce latency without a leased line between the two other data centers. It just really depends because its situational.

I know that despite increasing evidence that I clearly know what I'm talking about, you won't believe me either way. If I wasn't bound by disclosure contracts, I would tell you specifically who I work for (HINT: Its a large backbone provider that is well known for pushing IPv6 roll out) But I'm not going to risk my career over a sniveling troll.

[Mijin]

Incorrect leased lines can built as virtual circuits attached to a physical circuit. They are used all the time for over trans-oceanic fiber. I've configured plenty for domestic AND international clients. It doesn't matter what the physical medium is since its piggy backed onto a physical interface. Its one of many ways to optimize routing. BGP route announcements (public and private) and leased lines can and often are used in conjunction.

No.

You're making your posts overly verbose and filling it with terms that don't even relate to hide the fact that you're just spouting random nonsense.

I'm going to make this really simple. Yes, hops effect your connection speed, but hops are something that is a result of your ISP, SE cannot control or improve them. While they effect your speed, the real problem with latency is coming from the DISTANCE of the the servers. They are far away, really far for most of us. The only way to solve this is to add new servers that are closer.

The fact is that Yoshidas statment, "The players will have a choice of selecting a server based in their region or a server overseas" doesn't have anything to do with peering, leased lines, or any other crazy things that don't relate to the issue. The thing that got everyone confused is the term "data center," and it's been explained many times now that a data center is just a building that houses servers. The only reason why Yoshida didn't elaborate further is because they were short on time.

Some of you feel strongly against this happening, and you want to believe is isn't. I can't do anything more to convince you, so I guess you'll just have to wait and see.

[AarosLunos]

No.

You're making your posts overly verbose and filling it with terms that don't even relate to hide the fact that you're just spouting random nonsense.

Actually I've been pretty detailed, considering I'm replying to a crappy troll on some forums. Apparently you don't know how ATM works or what it is. (In before Hurr durr Automated teller machine article on wikipedia)

Just noticed something else. Why is it all the troll posters tend to originate from the Sargatanas server? Seriously? Is it some weird conspiracy? Back when idiots where necroposting in 2 year old threads, or mass spamming topics. Mostly all Sargatanas players. Not that I'm generalizing everyone from that server. Just a weird observation.

[Mijin]

Actually I've been pretty detailed, considering I'm replying to a crappy troll on some forums. Apparently you don't know how ATM works or what it is. (In before Hurr durr Automated teller machine article on wikipedia)

"Hi, I can't win this argument, so you're a troll."

You are just unbelievable. I've seen a lot of people full of it on the internet but you take the cake. The simple fact is, what is causing the latency issue is the distance from our clients to the servers in Japan. The only way to fix that is to bring new servers to our region, and that's exactly word for word what Yoshida said he was going to do. Hops are a result of your ISP, and SE can't do anything about it. Everything you have said in this thread has been based on fiction, and a general lack of understanding of how the internet works.

[MoarLegion]

With the exception of Kanji.

Hiragana and katakana are extremly easy to look up. Kanji doesn't make up a whole lot of the language you see in XIV considering a good chunk of those 2136 individual pictrograms you mention don't come up in general conversation at all.

So yes you can still grasp something from using your smartphone or even hardware keyboard on other devices. It's not rocket science.

*edit*

Is it a optimal solution? Of course not but it is a viable option for those unable to copy/paste the text into google trans (Still using google translation is dubious at best when actually getting a real interpretation of Japanese or other languages)

So rarely am I presented with a situation where, regardless of your actual knowledge of Japanese, am I able to reply with the following.

lulwut?

They're called Everyday Kanji for a reason. Spend some time on JP primetime and tell me if a person without any understanding of Japanese can honestly decipher the individual radicals of 2-3 kanji per word to create a compound word.

For example, one of the smaller JP shouts I encountered.
朝から極行きませんかー？募集確認の上お入りください＾＾＠2/8

Is a lay person going to be able to pick out the radicals per Kanji to find the Kanji, to find out the definition of the Kanji and then put that in with the sentence?

Google Translate renders this sentence as "Why do not you go from the very morning? Please enter check on recruitment." When in fact, what this person is saying is "Shall we do (extreme Ifrit) until morning? Please check the confirm in recruitment(menu)."

If you're telling me a person can do what I've outlined above with little to no understanding of Japanese, then your standards for human intelligence are much higher than mine.

[Nyx]

Ping servers. That's it. Not separation based off of location.

[Jynx]

Google Translate renders this sentence as "Why do not you go from the very morning? Please enter check on recruitment." When in fact, what this person is saying is "Shall we do (extreme Ifrit) until morning? Please check the confirm in recruitment(menu)."

I've allready commented on the dubiousness of using google translate at all much earlier in this thread. It's far from the perfect solution but it's all people who don't understand the language have and SE can't help it that they added translation terms for

Ifrit Bleeds We can Kill it. It's up to the Japanese community to use the automatically translated terms for other users, this is no fault on SE's part, it's impossible for SE to somehow translate Japanese into plain english due to the differences in the languages.

I don't get what your trying to say. What do you expect SE to do? What do you expect the community do?

English players often shout in english leaving players who speak other languages to their own devices to translate the messages if they deem it so. I've never said that the layman can always translate a Japanese shout but it's not impossible in most cases. If the sentence is heavy on Kanji then no there isn't much that you can do because Kanji itself is hard to translate and interpret in context by a automated service.

I play with Japanese players on a regular basis and no I don't speak much Japanese myself outisde my own interests so I do often rely on outside services such as google translate and it often does a servicable job when I need it to. Is it perfect? No, but there will never be a perfect option or we would see "Auto translate" in more than a game and wide-spread through the world and translators would find themselves having a hard time finding work.