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    Quote Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos View Post
    I used to hate Apple and iTunes, too. What got me to use iTunes was that for me, it was the only way for me to burn music CDs and have no gaps between songs. I own some music that have continuous play after each track (nature-music albums that have no spaces between songs, such as ocean CDs and such), and so it's good to have iTunes for that. Windows Media Player can't do that for me. Plus it's very easy to organize music on iTunes, moreso than WMP. The first Apple product I bought was the iPhone 4S. I didn't buy it because of Apple, but the capabilities, the uses of apps, being able to use my music from iTunes, and such. I didn't mind the price because the device just had a lot of capabilities. I don't like Google, though. I also like Apple in a sense because Steve Jobs founded Pixar, and I love Disney movies.

    So trust me, iTunes isn't a bad service. I am not a fanboy as I both like Apple and Microsoft. I just don't like Google for some reason (mainly because it's very easy to hack Android and get viruses and I've had issues with my old Galaxy S because of Android having problems on the phone). So yeah...
    Here's why Apple are untrustworthy. 2 months ago they patented things like a rectangular phone with rounded corners, they patented pinch to zoom (both of which were around long before apple) apple didn't invent these but got their patents granted, then they sue Samsung for infringing these 2 month old patents on devices that were made before this patent was granted, and the jury walked out with new iPhones and iPads.

    Apple force you to do things their way iTunes onry, sending files to iPhone onry, this makes you tell others to get the phone if you want to send them files, its a very dirty way to use an open standard. Apple also force you to use the phone how they want, oh and an FBI laptop got hacked which has a load of security codes for iPhones, so any iPhone can be hacked over the web instantly.

    Lets not forget I have never had malicious software on my Android phones, they work perfectly, any problems in the software are easy to fix, or are updated fast, Apple's vetting is absolute shit, viruses have got through before now, I have heard of more iPhone viruses than Android.

    Apple just hold you back, I like having a phone I can flash firmware whenever I want, I love my NFC, I will love my 4g when UK starts using it, I love my turn by turn navigation, I love my 4.8" screen, I love my 1.4GHz quad core cpu.... need anything else android can do that apple can't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    oh and an FBI laptop got hacked which has a load of security codes for iPhones, so any iPhone can be hacked over the web instantly.

    Apple's vetting is absolute shit, viruses have got through before now, I have heard of more iPhone viruses than Android
    Actually hacking an Iphone, or most phones, was pretty easy before that laptop was compromised. Now it just means it's half a step easier to do so. This is especially true with jailbroken phones, unless if you add a firewall and what-not (because you're more or less giving the hacker admin credentials, at this point).

    The second comment just reminds me how people thought Macs were safe from viruses...then it turned to less likely to get viruses...and now we have specific malware and viruses targeted directly for macs, and in all honesty the risk is just the same. The same could potentially be said for Android vs. Iphones...but there's a few variables. For example, it could just be that every 9 year old and his creepy uncle have Iphones, just because it has an Apple logo on it. When you're a hacker (or penetration tester...giggity), what better thing to work on than the most popular phone out? Especially little Timmy's phone, cause who doesn't like dumping inappropriate pictures on a kid's phone and getting him in trouble?

    but I digress, my career is showing, sorry ^.^
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    Quote Originally Posted by V3rdict View Post
    Actually hacking an Iphone, or most phones, was pretty easy before that laptop was compromised. Now it just means it's half a step easier to do so. This is especially true with jailbroken phones, unless if you add a firewall and what-not (because you're more or less giving the hacker admin credentials, at this point).

    The second comment just reminds me how people thought Macs were safe from viruses...then it turned to less likely to get viruses...and now we have specific malware and viruses targeted directly for macs, and in all honesty the risk is just the same. The same could potentially be said for Android vs. Iphones...but there's a few variables. For example, it could just be that every 9 year old and his creepy uncle have Iphones, just because it has an Apple logo on it. When you're a hacker (or penetration tester...giggity), what better thing to work on than the most popular phone out? Especially little Timmy's phone, cause who doesn't like dumping inappropriate pictures on a kid's phone and getting him in trouble?

    but I digress, my career is showing, sorry ^.^
    Macs were the most secure systems when they ran on the PowerPC G Series CPU's, Now there just as vulnerable as windows. the only reason i would even think about buying a mac is because of the software otherwise its just another run of the Mill x86/64 Machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V3rdict View Post
    Actually hacking an Iphone, or most phones, was pretty easy before that laptop was compromised. Now it just means it's half a step easier to do so. This is especially true with jailbroken phones, unless if you add a firewall and what-not (because you're more or less giving the hacker admin credentials, at this point).

    The second comment just reminds me how people thought Macs were safe from viruses...then it turned to less likely to get viruses...and now we have specific malware and viruses targeted directly for macs, and in all honesty the risk is just the same. The same could potentially be said for Android vs. Iphones...but there's a few variables. For example, it could just be that every 9 year old and his creepy uncle have Iphones, just because it has an Apple logo on it. When you're a hacker (or penetration tester...giggity), what better thing to work on than the most popular phone out? Especially little Timmy's phone, cause who doesn't like dumping inappropriate pictures on a kid's phone and getting him in trouble?

    but I digress, my career is showing, sorry ^.^
    This is another reason why rooted android > JB iPhone, in rooted android you get a superuser prompt if an app requires root access (full admin rights for none linux people) this is how linux is designed, iPhone however will not prompt and just give the whole phone admin rights (please correct me if I'm wrong) which increases security a lot.

    I aren't saying android is immune to malware I even have security software on my phone, just I have heard a lot more of iPhone getting malware more than android, also iPhone is no where near the most popular phone, virus's attack software so that's what matters, and android has the market on that, iOS is second, but a long way back, why do you think Apple goes to courts to get money now, they know they cannot compete fairly with android.

    Mac virus's cause huge problems because when people made them they had no security software, so the malware ran rampant, also Apple had no idea how to deal with it, and security patches were slow, Apple has actually given control of Java for Mac security patches to sun because they have no idea what to do after the last back door.

    tl;dr Apple don't know how to handle malware, whereas android does.
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