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  1. #21
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Quote Originally Posted by moeru View Post
    jabberjaw speed buggy josie why did they all look the same except for the animal/thing main sidekick?
    Because Hanna Barbera was lazy and cheap.
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    Eliseus Kayne
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    I'd love to have a wyvern again but would really love there to be more then just like Auto attack and does something via my WS/magic/sj. Kinda like how we are going to be able to choose what type of chocobo we have fighting alongside us, would like to be able to choose what kind of wyvern.
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  3. #23
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    Ramsey Asterdahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Actually, every FF after the 2nd changed it.
    Gareth and Kain are the only two "traditional" Dragoons to appear in the main series, they define the archetype, and they both fit it. On top of that though, Freya and Kihmari both fit the archetype on most counts as well. And none of them have constant companion wyverns or dragons.
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  4. #24
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    Rui Oran
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    I like Dragoon being a glass cannon, and not some useless piece of shit pet class that nobody wants.

    DRG is fine as is and needs very little changed.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Not really, it's actually a fairly new addition.



    Never read this at all and I keep up with all, especially Japanese interviews. The most they've said in this regard was music wouldn't all return for ARR, nothing about monsters or anything of the sort being removed, they did however say placement will change and additions will happen.



    You like to point out interviews, well in interviews relating to storylines they said they're revising the main storyline as well as some quest lines, nothing is certain. You slain Dragons in FFII, yet guess who were an ally to the Dragoon? If they choose to rewrite it they will, everything is being revised for ARR.



    Yep. Also, player characters never deviated in some shape or fashion from the norm in FF games. Never.
    To address some of your points:

    Like you would call me out on interviews, where I know for a fact I've read that less than 10% of current assets will be ported from the original FFXIV to ARR (also knowing that they mentioned "only a few BG will remain in ARR" as the near-precise wording) I would call you out on where you found out such a wyvern existed in the dats, and how you know it's a 'new addition.'

    Rewriting lore. Thaumaturge used to be a healer, with plenty of AoE buffs, heals and enfeebles while Conjurer was an all-out nuker: Ancient magic, and multiple tiers of elemental magic were included in their arsenal. But with the addition of jobs, Conjurer suddenly became White Mage and Thaumaturge, while having no previous access to elemental nukes, quickly became Black Mage. It was a lore revision and an entire retcon of what we knew in FFXIV previously.
    On the topic of Dragoons and rewriting their lore, there was already mention of dragonslayers in Ishgard back when Tanaka revealed his ideas for the future in a unveiling of sorts. Well, we have dragonslayers now - and who are they?

    Dragoons.
    While this might've been a rewrite of sorts, the story does clearly state that Dragoons are the defenders of Ishgard against dragonkin. I don't think that will be rewritten for ARR because it makes perfect sense to me, and a lot of other people in my social LS agree. However, back to Conjurer and Thaumaturge, those two might be having their lore fixed in ARR to fit with what we have now, as opposed to how they were back towards launch.

    Besides that, I don't see any reason to add wyverns as companions to Dragoons. It messes with the lore we have already, and back in FFXI the wyvern was never a very powerful companion. The only real use it served was to heal you after a Drachen Armet macro. Other than that, Wyverns severely lacked the capabilities of say, Avatars, Automatons, or Familiars. They were an autonomous companion that were killed very easily by a mob's AoE accompanied by a too-long 'call wyvern' timer. That aside, their final use was for the DRG 2hr which was only used in extreme situations, solo or otherwise.

    They were weak, and served little place as a companion. Without gear to buff them, the ability to issue commands to your partner, and no control over them at all, they'll simply be a liability that dies in more difficult content outside of soloing.

    No to wyverns. Dragoons are fine as they are.
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  6. #26
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    No for two big reasons:

    First being the reason of lore:

    None of the big name dragoons in the FF series had a wyvern apart of its job.

    EDIT: Apparently in FF2 there was a group known as dragoons that had a wyvern pet, wyvern idea didnt come back until FF11

    Second being for game balance:

    If they add a pet then they have to lower the stats of the dragoon (you) to keep things balanced - or make the wyvern suck so much there isnt a point to have one in the first place.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 09-07-2012 at 10:15 AM.

  7. #27
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    A simple 'no' is Sufic. Dragoons slay dragons, not keep 'em as pets.

    That's why there's Beastmaster.
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    No to infinity and beyond.


    NO
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    Last edited by Mijin; 09-07-2012 at 07:51 AM.

  9. #29
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    No. I don't want to fight alongside a Wyvern. I wouldn't mind if a Wyvern was used with some abilities but I do not want a pet.
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    Firewing....Firewing can you hear me?! Daddy will see you soon! ; _;/
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    Retired FFXI character: Ranok of Sylph

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