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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    However, it doesn't mean they can't choose to fight alongside them. Only SE can dictate the future storyline as we don't even know how it'll change in ARR.

    Oh btw, there's a FFXI style Wyvern that DRG had in the .dats for XIV, just sayin.
    That's irrelevant. I think it's safe to say at this point, that since they're only porting over less than 10% of current assets (somewhere in an interview it was mentioned, not going to dig it up) that most of the current dats aside from some music, armors, the racial assets, and weapons, most of it will be wiped from existence.

    Also, the fact they chose to pit Dragoons as dragonslayers and the mortal enemies of Nidhogg and dragonkin pretty much points to the fact we won't be getting a wyvern-esque ally.. Unless they decide to re-rewrite the lore again for ARR. But I doubt it.
    And: Estinien fought alongside the drake because he went rogue, and ended up being a villain. That's the only reason that happened.

    Technicalities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yucie View Post
    Dragoon lore in FFXIV is entirely different from FFXI.

    They get their powers from dragonkin; however, that does not mean the two fight alongside one another. Dragoons and Dragons, in Eorzea, are mortal enemies. If I'm wrong, then why does Nidhogg reportedly re-awaken to try and wipe Ishgard off the map every 20-30 years?

    As Alberic states, Dragoons derive their power from their dragonkin counterparts; however, he also states that relying too much on that source of power will cause the dragoon to succumb to it, and be controlled by it's will. Estinien does this with Cloudwine. He is so hellbent on revenge that he fails to realize he has fallen under the dragon's sway, Nidhogg included. Basically, his desires for vengeance cause him to lose control; that's why he fights alongside Cloudwine.

    And when he grovels to the wyrmgod for more power, his life is taken.

    The lore is different, and they aren't going to rewrite it just so Dragoon can have a useless pet. There was never a lot of gear dedicated to making your 'partner' as powerful as he could be, and the 2hr was so useless they simply replaced it with a 'eat your wyvern and buff up!' ability, and apparently that doesn't bother a great many people.

    No to wyverns. I like being a dragonslayer instead.
    Also I believe how the derive their powers from dragonkin is by slaying dragons, or maybe that was in a different FF
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  3. #13
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    HELL YEA GIVE MY TINY FURYBALL BACK NOW!!!!!
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    Spikey Sato
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    Yes I'm Irish, Yes I Drink Alot & Yes I Do Play A Lalafell On FFXIV! What's Your Point?

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    No.

    Dragoon's image has always been that of a lone wolf, FFXI was the exception not the rule. Please look forward to Beastmaster and Summoner if you want a pet.
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  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Yucie View Post
    That's irrelevant.
    Not really, it's actually a fairly new addition.

    I think it's safe to say at this point, that since they're only porting over less than 10% of current assets (somewhere in an interview it was mentioned, not going to dig it up)
    Never read this at all and I keep up with all, especially Japanese interviews. The most they've said in this regard was music wouldn't all return for ARR, nothing about monsters or anything of the sort being removed, they did however say placement will change and additions will happen.

    Unless they decide to re-rewrite the lore again for ARR. But I doubt it.
    You like to point out interviews, well in interviews relating to storylines they said they're revising the main storyline as well as some quest lines, nothing is certain. You slain Dragons in FFII, yet guess who were an ally to the Dragoon? If they choose to rewrite it they will, everything is being revised for ARR.

    And: Estinien fought alongside the drake because he went rogue, and ended up being a villain. That's the only reason that happened.
    Yep. Also, player characters never deviated in some shape or fashion from the norm in FF games. Never.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsey View Post
    No.

    Dragoon's image has always been that of a lone wolf, FFXI was the exception not the rule. Please look forward to Beastmaster and Summoner if you want a pet.
    Actually, every FF after the 2nd changed it.
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    gramul was that something from land of the lost?

    but to the topic i wouldent mind it if we had dragon pups
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    I don't want no damn pet. I wanna be able to turn into a dragon and eat things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moeru View Post
    gramul was that something from land of the lost?

    but to the topic i wouldent mind it if we had dragon pups
    Godzooky from the 1978 animated series "Godzilla". Came out during a time where every animated show was required to have an annoying inept scrappy.

    It aired a lot on early Cartoon Network.
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    No no and again no, in case you didn't hear me the last 3 times NO!!!!

    Traditionally Dragoons are dragon slayers, we fight dragons to protect the people of the world against dragons not with them.

    In FFXIV Dragoons are tasked with protecting Ishgard against the dragons, if it was up to the dragons they would destroy mankind, we must kill them all!!!! (Inc Eorzea's PETA)
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    jabberjaw speed buggy josie why did they all look the same except for the animal/thing main sidekick?

    but i wonder how they would make the dragons work if we could have them?
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