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  1. #161
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    Firon's Avatar
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    Firon Veleth
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by TomCarroll View Post
    In order to do that, they'd need to make PVP a primary focus, and not just an side distraction. The current story doesn't lend itself to faction-based pvp or open-world pvp. They'd need those two things to "Do it right", and I don't see that happening.
    They have the 3 grand companies going at each other for pvp <.<
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  2. #162
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    Aminore's Avatar
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    Aminore Luisa
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Raagnar View Post
    Fighting in PvP and PvE is totally different. Just because people know how to jump around and delay your actions doesn't make them more skilled at their job for PvE content, mobs react completely different. And it doesn't take a genius to learn a job in this game, so its pretty easy to spot theses "unskilled" players you speak of.
    Thats the point. alot of people wont enter a pvp event due to the fact that they will get exposed. if anyone fights another player as a cpu mob then they are missing the point of a pvp. its always a what will i do in that position moment. quick thinking and quick timing will prevail
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  3. #163
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    Pancakes's Avatar
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    Sean Cody
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 16
    I prefer PVP because its always unpredictable! Every match is different~!
    While PVE - doing the same dungeon with mobs acting the same every time over and over and over agaon-- o so boring

    Anyway LoL'd at OP saying that if he wanted a PVP he'd play FPS. PVP in RPGs are not just shooting to each other, they are usually in form of mini games-- grabbing flags, protecting base, throwing balls to the basket (ah good ol' days of ballista), gathering stuff for buffs etc etc - it can be rly fun! Oh why u ppl always so negative
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  4. #164
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    Kikosho's Avatar
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    Looks like you described PvE as well in many games Horribly balanced (class/specs) and gear dependent (gear tier)
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    As for PvP, it all depend of its implementation. I was a hardcore DAoC player, it's gonna be hard to please me with PvP, but Yoshida was also a DAoC player so... maybe... there is hope to have a proper PvP system.
    True but it's one thing to fight against a CPU and another against a player. It all depends on balancing really. Will the PvP be balanced around meaningful 1v1 or team based gameplay? Without knowing that, we won't really know how well PvP will pan out.
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  5. #165
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    TohruHonda's Avatar
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    Please Relax
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 60
    I hope they have open world full loot pk.
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  6. #166
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    LunaRhiki's Avatar
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    Luna Rhiki
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 50
    no thank you.
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  7. #167
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    Grim_Lion's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Grim Lion
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Its always the very last thing I would do. I mean, Ive had fun in places like AV and other WoW battlegrounds, but its always something I do when Ive finished everything else.
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  8. #168
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    Manticore's Avatar
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    Femme Fatale
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    I hope we have several types of PVP,

    PVE-PVP:
    Battles that consist of an instanced dungeon where opposing sides must compete against eachother and mobs/npcs to complete an objective.


    Open Area PVP:
    Contested territory where everyone is flagged for open PVP combat.


    Arena:
    Battles that are queued in teams of 2, 4, 6 or 8; pitted against other teams of the same number.

    Battlegrounds:
    PVP objective instances that are queued up for, with map objectives such as capture a point, retrieve flags, etc


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    I also hope they add a PVP stat separate from PVE gear, that increases damage done against other players and healing done to players. This way we can have PVP gear sets and not have to use the same PVE armor in PVP. I also want to have the ability to queue up for a PVP match from anywhere in the world, not all PVP has to be this way, but if I am sitting in Ul'dah, or out in the field farming, I would like to be able to queue up for PVP matches.
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    Last edited by Manticore; 09-05-2012 at 01:17 PM.

  9. #169
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    VitoScaletta's Avatar
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    Zilo Zilla
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    Cactuar
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    Armorer Lv 50
    All i know is ballista was the greatest thing since sliced bread back in 2005. Its all I did for almost a year straight, i met many friends(and enemies, in a good way). I remember when you started a match by catching invisible on a black mage and he would target a group and wipe their shadows by any means. so much dynamic strategy was involved. bring back a piece of that and i will be pleased
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  10. #170
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    Femme Fatale
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by VitoScaletta View Post
    All i know is ballista was the greatest thing since sliced bread back in 2005. Its all I did for almost a year straight, i met many friends(and enemies, in a good way). I remember when you started a match by catching invisible on a black mage and he would target a group and wipe their shadows by any means. so much dynamic strategy was involved. bring back a piece of that and i will be pleased

    While I agree I enjoyed Ballista a ton! Yoshi-P brings up a tremendous point when he says feedback from many of the FFXIV players has to be taken with a grain of salt because for the most part the only MMO's they have played are FFXI and FFXIV.

    Ballista when compared to any other MMO with actual PVP content, is terrible. It is such a strange game with not much PVP skill involved.

    We need PVP content that takes actual skill, and that is fast paced and requires strategy. Ballista did not deliver on those levels.
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