Seems like alot of people want this game to become Free 2 Play. >.>

[Krausus]

No matter how you slice it F2P MMOs have the Worst Graphics ( even GW2 I saw HD Videos and they seem to have that Generic MMO look). WoW's Cartoony Scenery is better than F2P graphics, and I dislike WoW.

Its usually not the graphics that are the issue, there are plenty of high graphic F2P MMOs on the market, the issue is quality of gameplay, content updates, and the community. Some of the responses on this thread try to paint the P2P business model the reason some games like SWTOR are failing, it isn't the business model its because those games suck and are not worth paying a monthly fee for. GW1/2 model works because you pay for the game and if you want additional content (expansion) you pay for that to but you will not see huge free content updates like most MMOs and the item mall stuff is mostly convenience and fluff. I see quite a bit of TF2 in this thread (lulz) its not even an MMO and doesn't belong in here all games like TF2 are F2P the difference with TF2 is you actually purchase the game (which is why it is better then the other arena battle shooters out there that are totally free).

[Starlord]

it isn't the business model its because those games suck and are not worth paying a monthly fee for.

Exactly, I agree 100% on what you said. If the game is good then people will feel more inclined to pay for ( even if they say the whole f2p? thing at first) because in the end, if the game is worth paying for then people will more likely to pay the sub for it. ( just like WoW and they have 9+ million subs and still going).

[Krausus]

Exactly, I agree 100% on what you said. If the game is good then people will feel more inclined to pay for ( even if they say the whole f2p? thing at first) because in the end, if the game is worth paying for then people will more likely to pay the sub for it. ( just like WoW and they have 9+ million subs and still going).

those people that scream "F2P or GTFO!" will not pay a monthly fee for any game so I would just write them off.

[Starlord]

those people that scream "F2P or GTFO!" will not pay a monthly fee for any game so I would just write them off.

Well personally, I wouldn't want them in the community, but if they happen "to" pay for it.. then its more money for SE to get more content out. That's why we have a blacklist feature. =).

[trinta]

"Stupid" on your standards? *smurks*

Irony. <3

[Yrusama]

I'm quite content paying for this. Then again, I'm a legacy member.

[Zumi]

Well personally, I wouldn't want them in the community, but if they happen "to" pay for it.. then its more money for SE to get more content out. That's why we have a blacklist feature. =).

You seem to be missing the point. If there wasn't more money to be had then companies wouldn't make games free to play. There is the ability to make more money with a free to play plus a cash shop then a pay to play model.

I rather have the game be free to play so I don't feel obligated to play it all the time. Let the people who are hard core into buying dumb hats, sunglasses, mounts and pets pay for the dev cost. Cost me less in the long run because I don't care about vanity items, exp boosts or whatever they would sell in the cash shop.

[Starlord]

I rather have the game be free to play so I don't feel obligated to play it all the time.

I had a feeling someone was going to say that at some point hehe. but everyone is entitled to their opinion, I like everything all in one glump, everything in the game.

So if your going to let a p2p feature turn you away because you" feel" like you need to play the whole month everyday to get your 10-15 bucks worth of the game then idn how you get your fill of a 60 buck offline game in a max time of 40 hours then :P.

If that's how you feel, then that's how you feel, we all have opinions and I respect yours ^.^

[Zumi]

I had a feeling someone was going to say that at some point hehe. but everyone is entitled to their opinion, I like everything all in one glump, everything in the game.

So if your going to let a p2p feature turn you away because you" feel" like you need to play the whole month everyday to get your 10-15 bucks worth of the game then idn how you get your fill of a 60 buck offline game in a max time of 40 hours then :P.

If that's how you feel, then that's how you feel, we all have opinions and I respect yours ^.^

I am worried about SEs track record. I didn't feel like I got my money's worth out of FFXI at all and I still have a sub to it might cancel soon since I had enough. Which is why I rather just have it free to play have people who want vanity items pay for it.

If you didn't know FFXI updates were very few and very slim if you look at any of their recent updates you would think is this a joke? For example, buy stuff from the craft guilds faster, store more items with storage slips, in fact the majority of their updates are bug fixs or slight tweaks to content. Anyway the major updates they make you pay for like the 3 addon stories for $10 each for $30 total, every new update you were paying $10 just to play the new content. Then came the year they rolled out abyssea same thing each new set of abyssea zones cost $10 each for a total of $30 over 3 patchs. You would think the sub fees would pay for stuff like that but no. If you didn't buy the abyssea addons not only would you not be able to get af3 gear but you probably wouldn't be able to exp either since everyone went to abyssea to exp now.

Will SE do the same thing in FFXIV? If they have a big patch will you have to throw down an extra $10 to play it on top of your monthly fee?

[Rannie]

I am worried about SEs track record. I didn't feel like I got my money's worth out of FFXI at all and I still have a sub to it might cancel soon since I had enough. Which is why I rather just have it free to play have people who want vanity items pay for it.

If you didn't like the game which is basically what you were saying since it wasn't worth your money. Why are you still paying to play it. Why didn't you, when it didn't meet your expectations, leave the game period. Why did you feel justified having to shell out that money for those expansions was it just for the af3 gear? That's just a laughable excuse since you didn't like the game and it wasn't worth your money.