I wouldn't mind FFXIV becoming a WoW clone in the casual/hardcore appeal if...

[kazaran]

Dude... That is what we have been trying to tell you all along.... Are you kidding me ?

No "Dude" that is my opinion the whole time, you are just not comprehending it.

Your general posts are on how superior wow always has been and how SE needs to be WOW. Which is shouldn't it seems you simply give in when out numbered.

XIV may adopt some standarized MMO features, but it will still remain FF. Not a clone of a western game.

What I have read of your posts doesn't indicate "That is what "WE" have been telling you" It is certainly not that by your previous comments if you need qoutes.

[XxOstiaxX]

No "Dude" that is my opinion the whole time, you are just not comprehending it.

Your general posts are on how superior wow always has been and how SE needs to be WOW. Which is shouldn't it seems you simply give in when out numbered.

XIV may adopt some standarized MMO features, but it will still remain FF. Not a clone of a western game.

What I have read of your posts doesn't indicate "That is what "WE" have been telling you" It is certainly not that by your previous comments if you need qoutes.

No! Your previews post's where "Wow sucks, nobody wants wow, if you use that mechanic from wow, this game will turn into a wow clone, FFXI FO LIEEFFF!!! DIE INFIDELS!!!!"

So on so on.... Now that last one was actually pretty modest..... Dont ruin it.

[kazaran]

THere are in fact many aspects of wow that di suck but I never said it was a horrid game, simply that thsi is NOT WOW. Cloning and copying most of it aspects woudl be futile.

Let's review your posts shall we. Every post is negitive XI negitive XIV, pro WOW.

Get over WOW already, it's 2012.

Also if using qoutes, actually qoute and not in your words.

WOW may have alot of players but it is far from a perfect game, and to older gamers, it lacks alot.

In society often the majority destroy socities and prevent their evolution.

[XxOstiaxX]

Wow is the most perfect MMO to date, is it 100% perfect ? No! But it is damm close, it caters to both hardcore and casuals, and to the casual/hardcore, you know those guys that are not neither of them, but are stuck in the middle of the pack.

Also how many times have you written "IF you want wow go back to wow" yet why don't you go back to XI ? i mean you want XIV a game SE designed NOT to be XI to be XI.... Seems dumb to me.... Please explain.

[kazaran]

Simple.

IF wow is so perfect you are on the wrong forum. This is about FFXIV not WOW. waste postign space about WOW on a WOW forum so people interested in FFXIV can discuss it's need and evolution, which is not cloning WOW.

Since WOW is so near perfect, there is no need for you to be here discussing it any further. LOL You become a TROLL POLL.

It is perfectly ligit to ask for aspects of the prior XI in XIV. Not legit to ask for a game that has nothign to do with the franchise.

THere are many things in XI that needs to be improved apon, and ommited from XIV, but many that should be concidered.

Deal with it, becuase Yoshida stated their priority is the fans. To make it right with them, and put it in a ew direction as well. Returning parts of the franchise, and new aspects as well.

Not to make another WOW, but to continue the franchise.

[Starlord]

Not to side with anyone but Kaz.. no one has even liked any of your posts. Welcoming "Successful Mechanics" from WOW such as the UI there's nothing wrong with that. Now if they were to copy "story elements" then that would be a different story. but making ANY MMO Function as it should is welcoming in my book, WOW Story elements= No thanks. FF is good with that.

Edit: I take that back you got 2 likes ^.^ hehe.

[kazaran]

may want to scan back.

I said aspects of the UI are fine, but an evolution as well, WOW's addons and UI can get fustrating and over bearing and needs work, hince not perfect.

It's OSTIA garbage about how perfect WOW is. As well as his followers who state the same thing. It isn't needed here and a majority of the players don't want to here "Make it a cloen of WOW".

What works for wow doesn't mean it will work for a Japanese designed MMO with higher story content.

It is also very easy to click any posters history and see what "Side" they are on and how the generally talk. All Ostia has done is been negative, condeming, sarcastic, and contributes little. 4 posts and he brings up all mighty wow is.

Then why isn't he off playing WOW rather then flooding about how XIV needs to be more an more like WOW.

Most of what is FF will continue in XIV, with some familiarity to make it easier for casual gamers from other titles. WHich makes since. Hower not toallly sacrificing fight mechanics, story, difficuluty for it. SE needs to blaance it. Which is what they are trying.

Hopefully the clone concept will not plaque ELder Scrolls Online as well.

I have said since post one. Familiar aspects of the UI would be no issue, and that has been used in other titeles as well. Award options, but hopefully closer to rift then WOW would be better.

Raid options, Dear god I hope not.

[XxOstiaxX]

Simple.

IF wow is so perfect you are on the wrong forum. This is about FFXIV not WOW. waste postign space about WOW on a WOW forum so people interested in FFXIV can discuss it's need and evolution, which is not cloning WOW.

Since WOW is so near perfect, there is no need for you to be here discussing it any further. LOL You become a TROLL POLL.

It is perfectly ligit to ask for aspects of the prior XI in XIV. Not legit to ask for a game that has nothign to do with the franchise.

THere are many things in XI that needs to be improved apon, and ommited from XIV, but many that should be concidered.

Deal with it, becuase Yoshida stated their priority is the fans. To make it right with them, and put it in a ew direction as well. Returning parts of the franchise, and new aspects as well.

Not to make another WOW, but to continue the franchise.

You do know that the only one that started having a hard one for wow was you right ? This is XIV not XI, period, if you want XI, you go and play XI.

Do tell me one mechanic from XI that should be implemented in XIV.....

[kazaran]

FF is FF.

WOW is nothign to do with it.

THere are plenty of aspects from XI that coul benifit, such as More persistant AI, with longer tracks (unlike wows AI that gives up at cross roads). Deeper skill mechanics and leveling them up for substained crits adn attacks, Better Elemental relations in battles, More challenges to pre-reqs to specific fits and no easy mode to it, deeper spell variety that functions better, THe return of defense stats in mobs, where breakign down their defense, mp pull, to weaken them for final fast assualts. Return of area assults and defenses like in WOTG. THe interlockign story elements common across FF varations an alternate existances. THe larger vast sub areas, Better structurign of sub abilties/jobs and how they complemented each other.

What is it we need from wow other then split window UI's that will fit the style of FF gaming? AI isn't suffcient. World design is outdated. Quests are to limited, simple and in small areas. No true main story line quests and cutscenes to pull it together.

Other then some ideas on gaining drop s for gear. Or simply increasing rewards for it.

Perhaps some PVP games to capture points, but that is general capture the flag style and get old. Rather see larger area task style PVP in more open zones (oh wait... humm)....

WOW isn't good enough for me to get a hard on for (why must you talk like a child?)

Curious to see yoru XI accounts and achievements.

Keep wanting that wow clone, it simply isn't the style the developers want to mimic. FF as a franchise is. Take care and keep dreaming of WOW: ARR

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[XxOstiaxX]

FF is FF.

WOW is nothign to do with it.

THere are plenty of aspects from XI that coul benifit, such as More persistant AI, with longer tracks (unlike wows AI that gives up at cross roads). Deeper skill mechanics and leveling them up for substained crits adn attacks, Better Elemental relations in battles, More challenges to pre-reqs to specific fits and no easy mode to it, deeper spell variety that functions better, THe return of defense stats in mobs, where breakign down their defense, mp pull, to weaken them for final fast assualts. Return of area assults and defenses like in WOTG. THe interlockign story elements common across FF varations an alternate existances. THe larger vast sub areas, Better structurign of sub abilties/jobs and how they complemented each other.

What is it we need from wow other then split window UI's that will fit the style of FF gaming? AI isn't suffcient. World design is outdated. Quests are to limited, simple and in small areas. No true main story line quests and cutscenes to pull it together.

Other then some ideas on gaining drop s for gear. Or simply increasing rewards for it.

Perhaps some PVP games to capture points, but that is general capture the flag style and get old. Rather see larger area task style PVP in more open zones (oh wait... humm)....

WOW isn't good enough for me to get a hard on for (why must you talk like a child?)

Curious to see yoru XI accounts and achievements.

Keep wanting that wow clone, it simply isn't the style the developers want to mimic. FF as a franchise is. Take care and keep dreaming of WOW: ARR

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Those aspects of XI are outdated brah, as in they are from EQ, as in the majority of MMO players don't want it, numbers don't lie, also SE themselves don't want XIV turned into XI, if you want XI, XI still exist does it not ? SE wants MONEY!! Do you think they are willing to spend 50+ million dollars to cater to 200K players.... Please.

Also you obviously did not play PVP on wow, because capture the flag is not even half of what the PVP in wow is all about..... Also quest in WOW are limited ? Are you serious ? Seriously wow quest are the most diverse quest out of any MMO out there, they also have a main storyline, they just dont have scenes ala xenosaga, but each zone has a complete storyline that eventually ties itself to the main storyline of the current expansion, unlike XIV.....