darksteel armor and the like

[Arkine]

Heavy Darksteel is meh at best.

You lose head and feet slots so you you lose on 2+ materia slots.
The stats are very MEH compared to other craft-able items (Full cobalt with single meld beats it)
It's hard to get since it has a "Flawless" in the synth.

Only part I'd use would be the hands and even then PLD/WAR can't use them.

The whole Class-only line of gear is a failing attempt to make classes relevant again, and when that failed they just added class weapons to the relic quest and that's the only reason (other than novelty) that people make these weapons.


Also, nobody uses GLA and MRD for any worthwhile content, theres no point arguing against this, people can use them but who really does? if you got a party then you got a healer and so the "I wan't SS and Cure!" argument is moot.

[Krausus]

the only class of those 2 that I would even concider playing over job is MRD and that is for DPS only. The heavy darklight is far from optimal gear for dps so it is actually pretty worthless.

[UmJammerSully]

bobbygunz, people do play those classes. I see it all the time.

Really? You see people choosing MRD over WAR "all the time"? Your server is weird.

[Leoheart]

I made a Gryphonskin jerkin +1 the other day.. (1% HQ)

My only hope is that they do do something with this gear; similar to how the class specific weapons became relics.

Edit:

Really? You see people choosing MRD over WAR "all the time"? Your server is weird.

This and:

I only see classes used for leveling or in rare cases, Thaumaturge for Ifrit.

[HiirNoivl]

I made a Gryphonskin jerkin +1 the other day.. (1% HQ)

My only hope is that they do do something with this gear; similar to how the class specific weapons became relics.

Edit:

This and:

I only see classes used for leveling or in rare cases, Thaumaturge for Ifrit.

People use THM a lot on my server. I've seen them use THM for Garuda and dungeons. GLA, I see sometimes in strongholds and NMs. I don't see MRD now that I think about it. WAR's Steel Cyclone is pretty much indispensable.

[Krausus]

People use THM a lot on my server. I've seen them use THM for Garuda and dungeons. GLA, I see sometimes in strongholds and NMs. I don't see MRD now that I think about it. WAR's Steel Cyclone is pretty much indispensable.

really depends on the fight for WAR if its aoe heavy then yeah Steel Cyclone is a must, but single target, Invigorate, keen flurry, blood for blood, etc are all pretty nice for a MRD build

[Jennestia]

Really? You see people choosing MRD over WAR "all the time"? Your server is weird.

As they say on my server:

"The only reason to use THM over BLM is raise and sentinel if your party sucks."

[Leoheart]

I still wouldn't scoff at Prism > Sanguine rite however~ It is pretty niche but still nice

[Griss]

People use THM a lot on my server. I've seen them use THM for Garuda and dungeons. GLA, I see sometimes in strongholds and NMs. I don't see MRD now that I think about it. WAR's Steel Cyclone is pretty much indispensable.

Yea thm is the only base class where in the loss of the job stuff is actually a worth while trade when it comes to high end group content.

[Rau]

I remember we'd use THM for Astral Flow on Garuda.

I think even some parties use it for Hardmode Darnus.