Why the +/- Enmity stat needs to be abolished

[GreyJorildyn]

judging by the stats you bost, your whms are the only reason you hold hate, if they were to be gimped in anyway , you would likely die and wipe the party in result. I give credit where its due, your not a tank, your a DD in enmity gear that relys on its whms to look like a tank.

LOL

Cool story bro.

Did you do any speed runs yet? Defeat Garuda Hard? Kill Ifrit Extreme? You always avoid answering these questions because you haven't done it and therefore only live in your own little bubble of how you play, rather than how it can be played.

I think my tanking experience goes far deeper than yours. But you wouldn't know that since you make a lot of assumptions. The irony of all of this is you call me out for not being open-minded after I made a post about having several gear sets which do not entirely stack enmity. Come on dude, your tanking experience is rooted in pick up groups and yet you come on these boards trying to give people advice about how to gear themselves out in the best way, but the reality of it is you are only teaching people to be just like you, which is objectively geared improperly. I disagree with you because our opinions differ on how to gear. I will not dispute that DEF and mitigating damage is "good", but it doesn't help you when your MNK DPS is 150+ and BLM is 120+. You won't be holding hate dude, but you wouldn't know that because your DPS probably don't break 80 DPS.

If this thread is about the efficacy of the enmity +/- system, then if it were to be abolished, more significant multipliers would be required across the board inherent to combos. Additionally, certain abilities would just flat out need to give more enmity. The system is dynamic now because you can mix and match sets to make something workable for your group. What I've argued is that when the other 7 people in your party start gearing to the teeth (triple/quad melds), tanks require +enmity to maintain themselves in the end game due to the nature of physical damage resistance on several different mobs. Flat Blade will not cut it, regardless of how often you spam it. In fact I've found that the goring blade combo actually grants more enmity on stuff like Chimera because Savage Blade does more damage than Flat Blade and Goring Blade adds a third hit for quite a bit of damage. Do the math, whatever you want to do, but if you telli me that you can tank Chimera in a 4:00 zergfest with DEF/DPS gear onry on PLD and no enmity boost, then you better bring a video to back up the claim. The only way you might pull that off is being your own healer for the vast majority of that fight, and it will not be nearly as smooth or simple as being geared the proper way according to your party setup and damage.

[Aceofspades]

LOL

Cool story bro.

Did you do any speed runs yet? Defeat Garuda Hard? Kill Ifrit Extreme? You always avoid answering these questions because you haven't done it and therefore only live in your own little bubble of how you play, rather than how it can be played.

I think my tanking experience goes far deeper than yours. But you wouldn't know that since you make a lot of assumptions. The irony of all of this is you call me out for not being open-minded after I made a post about having several gear sets which do not entirely stack enmity. Come on dude, your tanking experience is rooted in pick up groups and yet you come on these boards trying to give people advice about how to gear themselves out in the best way, but the reality of it is you are only teaching people to be just like you, which is objectively geared improperly. I disagree with you because our opinions differ on how to gear. I will not dispute that DEF and mitigating damage is "good", but it doesn't help you when your MNK DPS is 150+ and BLM is 120+. You won't be holding hate dude, but you wouldn't know that because your DPS probably don't break 80 DPS.

If this thread is about the efficacy of the enmity +/- system, then if it were to be abolished, more significant multipliers would be required across the board inherent to combos. Additionally, certain abilities would just flat out need to give more enmity. The system is dynamic now because you can mix and match sets to make something workable for your group. What I've argued is that when the other 7 people in your party start gearing to the teeth (triple/quad melds), tanks require +enmity to maintain themselves in the end game due to the nature of physical damage resistance on several different mobs. Flat Blade will not cut it, regardless of how often you spam it. In fact I've found that the goring blade combo actually grants more enmity on stuff like Chimera because Savage Blade does more damage than Flat Blade and Goring Blade adds a third hit for quite a bit of damage. Do the math, whatever you want to do, but if you telli me that you can tank Chimera in a 4:00 zergfest with DEF/DPS gear onry on PLD and no enmity boost, then you better bring a video to back up the claim. The only way you might pull that off is being your own healer for the vast majority of that fight, and it will not be nearly as smooth or simple as being geared the proper way according to your party setup and damage.

realy? -.-

You honestly think 150dps is challanging to hold hate on? Your right that I dont have dungeons complete. but I only get 3 hours on the weekends to do endgame content, thats given I dont have to go to drill that weekend. Other then that I am busy lvling jobs and gearing my tank. Going against mobs that your DPS dose less damage on is NOT a test of enmity , especially on pld. PLD dosent use DPS as a main stay for enmity. The fact that YOU keep dodging this fact just proves you are ignoring how PLD actually holds hate and why enmity gear is not as important as other stats, mind offers more for enmity on pld then enmity materia. I hold hate when my dps are doing 600-1200 + damage to a mob. Is it garuda? no, but it dosent matter, they are essentually pulling more hate then your dds doing 150 on garuda. Soo grats on the garuda run but you are still clueless as to how enmity works on this game, you just assume that +enmity is the end all for ALL tanks, and it simply is not. I am willing to bet, you tank more on your WAR then your PLD because you find its easier to hold hate.