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    Level cap content waste inv space. You go back to try to help a lower level player with a lvl25 quest and you cant use any of your gear, so now you have to keep low level gear around if you ever plan on helping anyone. Gear doesn't scale like it use to back at launch. Even if it is just 'optimal' required, you will get 0 stats and extremely reduced defense off of it, and required level gear you know will just get unequipped. Level caps will also increase the number of people that will not help lower level people with content, since only a small handful of people would bother keeping low level gear around to do that content again.

    So... no to level caps. It was stupid in FFXI, it would be stupid here.

    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    i'm not saying anything about speed running through everything. what i am saying is that i'm willing to go help a low level player with their content if they can't find a party because i can run through it quickly and not take alot of my time doing so. if they level cap it i'll just act like everyone else already does and ignore their cries for help.

    the last thing this game needs is just another reason for people to be less likely to help each other. this game already has enough of that as it is and doesn't need help getting more that way.
    Missed this :P but pretty much this. We dont need another reason not to help the new player, nor to start making this game new-player unfriendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
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    In XI, your current gear would scale back with your level, meaning you didn't need to carry low level gear. If XI could do it, why can't XIV?

    And again, with XIV balanced around sharing skills from every job, the majority of the player base should always have at least a few things worth gaining experience/gear for
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocko View Post
    In XI, your current gear would scale back with your level, meaning you didn't need to carry low level gear. If XI could do it, why can't XIV?

    And again, with XIV balanced around sharing skills from every job, the majority of the player base should always have at least a few things worth gaining experience/gear for
    Must have been something that changed after I quit, because when you went back to do a lvl25 cap mission for example, your lvl26+ gear couldnt be used at all.

    And, as I said, gear in FFXIV does not scale how you want it to anymore. It will be like you arent wearing anything at all, and you wont be able to wear any gear that requires a certain level.

    This is just going to be detrimental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Must have been something that changed after I quit, because when you went back to do a lvl25 cap mission for example, your lvl26+ gear couldnt be used at all.

    And, as I said, gear in FFXIV does not scale how you want it to anymore. It will be like you arent wearing anything at all, and you wont be able to wear any gear that requires a certain level.

    This is just going to be detrimental.
    ...If they introduce level sync, it will? This really isn't an issue at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocko View Post
    ...If they introduce level sync, it will? This really isn't an issue at all.
    Banking on them doing something they haven't done yet for this game?

    Game doesn't need level cap content. Go help the lowbie with whatever quest he/she needs help with as lvl50, or whatever the cap may be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Banking on them doing something they haven't done yet for this game?

    Game doesn't need level cap content. Go help the lowbie with whatever quest he/she needs help with as lvl50, or whatever the cap may be.
    Hope the lowbie enjoys having no immersion or sense of accomplishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Banking on them doing something they haven't done yet for this game?

    Game doesn't need level cap content. Go help the lowbie with whatever quest he/she needs help with as lvl50, or whatever the cap may be.

    and who of these two would ever enjoy this? right, NO ONE...!

    the lv 50 is hitting mobs easily down and the lowbe is just watching.. "ah well i go afk then"
    really good for new players who want to get entertained!

    that shouldnt be a MMorpg from the stoneage... seriously. A MMorpg of today needs to entertain people. killing ifrit with 2-5 hits has in the first place nothing to do with entertainment, secondly destroys immerson, last but not least its no challenge at all. why playing a story based pvm game when it has no challenge to offer? its lame and nothing more.

    and its just ridiculous to kill ifrit under 30 seconds.. its a damn god. even in the story mission. and the ifrit of the story mission is still much more easy than hardcore ifrit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Hope the lowbie enjoys having no immersion or sense of accomplishment.
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    [x] vote for a level cap/sync system for instanced dungeons/boss fights like in FFXI. Where your character and your equipment was downgraded to the maximum level for the instance.
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 08-14-2012 at 05:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    and who of these two would ever enjoy this? right, NO ONE...!

    the lv 50 is hitting mobs easily down and the lowbe is just watching.. "ah well i go afk then"
    really good for new players who want to get entertained!
    add level caps/sync or whatever you want to call it and let's see how much fun they have when nobody is willing to help. i know if they add it i'll do like the vast majority do already and just ingore people begging for help and then they will eventually quit.

    right now i'll help because i can do it on my 50 and take as little out of my time as i can. if you make it to where it takes longer i'll just stop helping.
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    Well, level cap content will continue to be a dumb idea to me. If you rose above the strength of the mission or dungeon, you should stay at that strength. It's silly to magically be weakened because you went and leveled up. And once again, we dont need every little detail about FFXI transferred over. FFXIV is good without that stupid lvl cap restriction.

    And, People already do enough ignoring of shouts for help with missions and such, you think level caps/lvl sync is going to fix that? If a lvl50 could easily go and destroy lvl30 ifrit, but still wont answer the call for help, why would he/she do it if he/she would end up losing 20lvls for the fight. Now its not really helping, its going back and doing it all over again, for NO reward.
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    Last edited by Reika; 08-14-2012 at 06:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Banking on them doing something they haven't done yet for this game?

    Game doesn't need level cap content. Go help the lowbie with whatever quest he/she needs help with as lvl50, or whatever the cap may be.
    They've already done it, in XI. It's the same team. Discarding a helpful mechanic because it's 'in XI' is foolish, almost bordering on discriminatory. What kind of mentality is that?
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