Deus Darnus, Thaliak, Louisoux and Dalamud [Speculation Thread with Spoilers]

[TenraiNagi]

Also note...Where is Rhalgr's symbol? Nearby Uldah...and we've all seen whats about to happen to Uldah...

Evidence to support Louisoix is Rhalgr: Rhalgr's staff is bronze, Louis' staff is bronze, and not ashen like Thaliak's staff. Also the Thaliak symbol looks out of place, a rock on an otherwise bronze and leather staff. And the symbol is upsidedown!
Rhalgr is also depicted as a mage, while Thaliak is a scholar.... But Louis' is a mage.
Rhalgr's symbol is the meteor, and Louis' has been having us do stuff which is feeding energy to the meteor.

OBJECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Love Phoenix Wright xD)


I don't know about you but that looks like wood to me... Yes there is a tiny part that's bronze but it's mainly made out of wood.

And about Thaliak's symbol being out of place... Well you guys were looking at it from the wrong angle...

see, looks just fine

[ArkNova]

Unlikely. It looks like one of the "crosses" that are planted on Dalamud, probably just one of the seals.

Probably true it's just that this cross was glowing and I don't remember seeing any others glowing but I think that was the only cross that fell in the video so it stuck out to me lol

[Alerith]

Also, anyone nostalgic on how Darnus' fight is reminiscent to XI's Promathia fight?

You mean the part where they both hit phase 2 and decide to spam Meteor like assholes? XD

[ProtoOrion]

Just because I feel like it would be necessary to note, those speaking about Bahamut. Is it not also interesting that his name resembles "Dalamud"? The vowels, the letter m... I mean, if we're throwing conspiracies, it would make sense that Dalamud is in some way related to none other than Bahamut. Deus Darnus: "Grant me your power!" Dalamud (Bahamut): "Here! Take Megaflare and Gigaflare!"

[Punainen]

I read your posts. I respectfully disagree and frankly find it very unconvincing. Even before anyone countered your argument (I believe I was the first to actually say anything) you were convinced that no one was listening to you. The thread isn't about arguing against other people's speculation. It's about everyone contributing their own theories, evidence, and reasoning. I like these threads because I can chime in and try to make sense of ideas, bring forth more evidence, etc. I read your first post, saw the flaw, and chose not to say anything. When I started seeing that you were criticizing other people's speculation, I decided your ideas should be questioned just as much as you are questioning others.

Now don't get me wrong, I do like some of your speculation. You do refuse to see that there are things other than evidence that can merit speculation. Ramesses said somewhere that ancient Mythology generally has some sort of opposing force (yin yang, angel devil, odin loki, zeus hades). To this reasoning, we can find it not entirely farfetched that a similar deity could exist in this lore too. Hence the speculation of the 13th. It's not "evidence", it's reasoning. It's also philosophy 101.

Also, I'll get into whatever conversation I damn well please. Don't tell me what to do in a public forum. If you don't like it, message people privately. This place is public for a reason.

TL;DR: Don't give a flying F* what you think of my theory. You not believing my theory doesn't make the other guys theory hold water. But you made a wonderful point earlier by comparing his theory to that of a dodo popping out of Dalamud, as it makes just as little sense.

Its a fact, that if you have NO rhyme or reason behind your speculation, that it is completely BLIND speculation. That's all I said about it, and you've yet to disprove it, and neither has he.

[ArkNova]

SARCASM MODE ACTIVATE!

You guys better learn to have facts and evidence before you go tossing out of this world theories!

SARCASM MODE DEACTIVATE!

I kind of hope Bahamut isn't inside Dalamud for a few reasons.

1. This would make him a super bad ass, so bad ass that we wouldn't get to summon him if/when summoner comes out and since we couldn't summon him in XI I'm hoping we can here.

2. Maybe the attack "MegaFlare" that Darnus uses is a mistranslation?

3. Don't Primals live in another dimension of sort? A quote taken from ZAM: They require a vast amount of energy in order to trancend into our world. If that holds true how could Bahamut be inside Dalamud? If Bahamut was inside Dalamud wouldn't he need a constant supply of crystals to keep his physical body trapped inside or else his body would just poof back into where ever Primals live? Between the 10 years of the primal sightings how would Bahamut of had a supply of crystals?

TL;DR If Bahamut is inside Dalamud what Planeswalker is supplying his upkeep cost and how over the amount of time that satellite has been up there til now?

[Rannie]

the dragon thingy was midgarsomar? I thought they would have at least represented him correctly as a giant snake not as a dragon. They correctly (somewhat) represent odin and most of the time the represent Slepneir (this time they only give his horse 4 legs instead of the 8 he's supposed to have most of the other times they just miss two and i think that's because of drawing restrictions and such) correctly as well as Fenrir... so I doubt they would change The World Serpent to be a World Dragon... (then again when I think of Ragnarok and all of that I think of Loki storming the place and Heimdall calling out and fighting and all that.... sorry I've read the Prose Edda and all of that I'm very interested in Norse mythology)

It's an interesting theory though I will say I don't like Thancred and people praise him but there's always been something fishy about him to me...

[Alerith]

the dragon thingy was midgarsomar? I thought they would have at least represented him correctly as a giant snake not as a dragon. They correctly (somewhat) represent odin and most of the time the represent Slepneir (this time they only give his horse 4 legs instead of the 8 he's supposed to have most of the other times they just miss two and i think that's because of drawing restrictions and such) correctly as well as Fenrir... so I doubt they would change The World Serpent to be a World Dragon... (then again when I think of Ragnarok and all of that I think of Loki storming the place and Heimdall calling out and fighting and all that.... sorry I've read the Prose Edda and all of that I'm very interested in Norse mythology)

It's an interesting theory though I will say I don't like Thancred and people praise him but there's always been something fishy about him to me...

Bahamut is also technically a giant fish.

But that's less than entertaining here.

[Skies]

the dragon thingy was midgarsomar? I thought they would have at least represented him correctly as a giant snake not as a dragon. They correctly (somewhat) represent odin and most of the time the represent Slepneir (this time they only give his horse 4 legs instead of the 8 he's supposed to have most of the other times they just miss two and i think that's because of drawing restrictions and such) correctly as well as Fenrir... so I doubt they would change The World Serpent to be a World Dragon... (then again when I think of Ragnarok and all of that I think of Loki storming the place and Heimdall calling out and fighting and all that.... sorry I've read the Prose Edda and all of that I'm very interested in Norse mythology)

It's an interesting theory though I will say I don't like Thancred and people praise him but there's always been something fishy about him to me...

Well, to be sincere, Midgarsormr in this game is actually a serpentine dragon, so at least PARTWAY there.

And what Alerith said about Bahamut. Gods don't even get me started on how the general portrayal of Tiamat is all shades of wrong as well.

[Rannie]

now that I didn't know Bahamut being a giant fish I know Leviathan is but not bahamut... what mythos is it from? you've actually peaked my curiosity on that.

and my whole thing is normally with norse myth they tend to keep it straight or closer to what it is or based off of at least. I didn't say it was bad just find it odd that they're calling that the world serpent which is what midgarsormr (midgar meaning the world and sormr being a serpent) a dragon instead of a snake. i know in eastern myth the dragons take on a more serpentine look, but i believe even Seiryu had some type of wings.... ah well.

I think the only one in the myths they had represented 100% correctly was nidhogg... sorry... derailing the thread.

Shall we go into Shiva then? ROFL Shiva isn't even a woman! Shiva is a man in Hindu myth.