Deus Darnus, Thaliak, Louisoux and Dalamud [Speculation Thread with Spoilers]

[Punainen]

It seems you have decided on what you are believing and completely closed your mind to anything else. The reason you don't see reasoning in his argument is because you refuse to look. To be honest, I think their arguments are much stronger than yours.
Just look at your main point (the one that you lean all of your ideas on as if it were fact), it refers to the Ashen Staff not being Ashen. But there are multiple meanings to the word. The primary interpretation might be that it is a Black Staff. One may even say it is simply ashy. But ash connotes black (death), gray (fire), and white (fallout). You assume that the "Ashen Staff" is a staff made of an ashen tree.

Don't jump into the middle of a conversation without paying attention to what I was talking about. I think OP's theory is interesting and based on evidence. Ramesses' theory about a thirteenth deity is completely groundless as he's given nothing to back up his wild theories, just a theory out of the blue that he can't say WHY he thinks it.

Now kindly go away if you're only going to pay attention to HALF the conversation.

[MrKupo]

Don't jump into the middle of a conversation without paying attention to what I was talking about. I think OP's theory is interesting and based on evidence. Ramesses' theory about a thirteenth deity is completely groundless as he's given nothing to back up his wild theories, just a theory out of the blue that he can't say WHY he thinks it.

Now kindly go away if you're only going to pay attention to HALF the conversation.

I read your posts. I respectfully disagree and frankly find it very unconvincing. Even before anyone countered your argument (I believe I was the first to actually say anything) you were convinced that no one was listening to you. The thread isn't about arguing against other people's speculation. It's about everyone contributing their own theories, evidence, and reasoning. I like these threads because I can chime in and try to make sense of ideas, bring forth more evidence, etc. I read your first post, saw the flaw, and chose not to say anything. When I started seeing that you were criticizing other people's speculation, I decided your ideas should be questioned just as much as you are questioning others.

Now don't get me wrong, I do like some of your speculation. You do refuse to see that there are things other than evidence that can merit speculation. Ramesses said somewhere that ancient Mythology generally has some sort of opposing force (yin yang, angel devil, odin loki, zeus hades). To this reasoning, we can find it not entirely farfetched that a similar deity could exist in this lore too. Hence the speculation of the 13th. It's not "evidence", it's reasoning. It's also philosophy 101.

Also, I'll get into whatever conversation I damn well please. Don't tell me what to do in a public forum. If you don't like it, message people privately. This place is public for a reason.

[Punainen]

I read your posts. I respectfully disagree and frankly find it very unconvincing. Even before anyone countered your argument (I believe I was the first to actually say anything) you were convinced that no one was listening to you. The thread isn't about arguing against other people's speculation. It's about everyone contributing their own theories, evidence, and reasoning. I like these threads because I can chime in and try to make sense of ideas, bring forth more evidence, etc. I read your first post, saw the flaw, and chose not to say anything. When I started seeing that you were criticizing other people's speculation, I decided your ideas should be questioned just as much as you are questioning others.

Now don't get me wrong, I do like some of your speculation. You do refuse to see that there are things other than evidence that can merit speculation. Ramesses said somewhere that ancient Mythology generally has some sort of opposing force (yin yang, angel devil, odin loki, zeus hades). To this reasoning, we can find it not entirely farfetched that a similar deity could exist in this lore too. Hence the speculation of the 13th. It's not "evidence", it's reasoning. It's also philosophy 101.

Also, I'll get into whatever conversation I damn well please. Don't tell me what to do in a public forum. If you don't like it, message people privately. This place is public for a reason.

TL;DR: Don't give a flying F* what you think of my theory. You not believing my theory doesn't make the other guys theory hold water. But you made a wonderful point earlier by comparing his theory to that of a dodo popping out of Dalamud, as it makes just as little sense.

Its a fact, that if you have NO rhyme or reason behind your speculation, that it is completely BLIND speculation. That's all I said about it, and you've yet to disprove it, and neither has he.