[Dev 1011] Failing Guildleves Intentionally?

[Kilta_Firelotus]

1 then ppl play wrong and slowly. sorry but thats kinda silly they would rather do 8 only then grouping up with other ppl letting them pick a harder setting. In away your helping them and are rewarded for it.
2 I'm not. I play to have fun

But i can see why ppl "fear the leecher" << if you get the joke :P
thet feel if you don;t have levequests your just leeching on theirs. Even though that isn't the case. Man ppl are silly in this game. Personally id be all for forming a party no matter if ppl had leves or not. I just play for fun

I think persinally ppl take this game to seruiusly and its aiding its failur. No one is truely using taking full advantage of the system. And exploiting it in a sence.
Least that is what it seems like to me based on what was said.

if this is wrong correct it. I'm a very smart person and quicky understand ppl alot of the time.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

i wish they remove the reset completely and have ppl do levequests non stop and set it up to be more like fov pages just with the quest attached. and get rewarded a nice sp vs gil and items. well maybe a lil gil.

I also wouldn't mind a counter at each camp so ppl can just stay in the camps vs going into town (saves anima i would assume)

[Krausus]

1 then ppl play wrong and slowly. sorry but thats kinda silly they would rather do 8 only then grouping up with other ppl letting them pick a harder setting. In away your helping them and are rewarded for it.
2 I'm not. I play to have fun

But i can see why ppl "fear the leecher" << if you get the joke :P
thet feel if you don;t have levequests your just leeching on theirs. Even though that isn't the case. Man ppl are silly in this game. Personally id be all for forming a party no matter if ppl had leves or not. I just play for fun

I think persinally ppl take this game to seruiusly and its aiding its failur. No one is truely using taking full advantage of the system. And exploiting it in a sence.
Least that is what it seems like to me based on what was said.

if this is wrong correct it. I'm a very smart person and quicky understand ppl alot of the time.

well I think you misunderstand a bit people do group up for the good leves, if you do it right if all 8 people have the same 3 good leves (because from 32 to 50 you are stuck at camp broken water with only 3 good leves) that can essentially last you a good couple of hours, then you choose, do we want to do the shity leves for the same sp we would be getting if we grind raptors with all the extra running involved or should we just go do raptors.

Also I mentioned unless you are in an LS group, which means no one cares if you have leves (at least in my LS) you are more then welcome to come. Outside of this type of group it is polite to also bring leves.

[darkstarpoet1]

1 then ppl play wrong and slowly. sorry but thats kinda silly they would rather do 8 only then grouping up with other ppl letting them pick a harder setting. In away your helping them and are rewarded for it.
2 I'm not. I play to have fun

But i can see why ppl "fear the leecher" << if you get the joke :P
thet feel if you don;t have levequests your just leeching on theirs. Even though that isn't the case. Man ppl are silly in this game. Personally id be all for forming a party no matter if ppl had leves or not. I just play for fun

I think persinally ppl take this game to seruiusly and its aiding its failur. No one is truely using taking full advantage of the system. And exploiting it in a sence.
Least that is what it seems like to me based on what was said.

if this is wrong correct it. I'm a very smart person and quicky understand ppl alot of the time.

actually it is the case in the means of leeching. if they do not have leves to contribute and are in your party they are leeching in the fact that the sp goes down the more people are in the party. get a group with 6 people with all having leves and get a group of 15 people with 6 of them having leves and the 15 will be getting less than half the sp per kill.

as far as your #1 some of the leves take 20-30 minutes to complete. let's see 64x30min you have 32 hours of leves in a 36 hour cycle without any breaks or sleep then start the cycle over. that would constantly leave people out and not getting to complete their leves. how is that anymore beneficial than taking 3-4 hours for a group and everyone getting to run their leves? notice i said 64 which is only an 8 person party. max party size is 15 so you figure out how to run 60 hours of leves within a 36 hour time frame then we can talk about playing too slowly.

most of the leves people run over and over are the ones that take the longest to do hence more sp. they do have leves you can go and run and kill 2 mobs and the leve is over. i used "where's the meat" as an example and you kill aldgoats til you get 2 pieces of meat from them. alot of times that leve is 2 mobs 2 kills and maybe 200sp for the entire leve. it takes only 1-2 minutes to complete it.

you could run it all you want to, but compare it to lightsome verdure which is gnats you have to collect 5 pages from them and they drop randomly from the pairs of mobs. each mob gives more sp than the whole other leve and they come in pairs. figure out why people choose to get 500 a kill on at least 10 mobs compared to 2 kills on mobs around 100 sp each.

[solracht]

1 then ppl play wrong and slowly. sorry but thats kinda silly they would rather do 8 only then grouping up with other ppl letting them pick a harder setting. In away your helping them and are rewarded for it.

You should really play before making comments like these.

[Jinko]

I also don't want this to be an exploit SE realizes it is and ppl get banned for doing it. not like it didn't happen b4....

They start banning people and they will have nobody to play their game.

[AlexiaKidd]

Retrying Levequests

Levequest targets give players many times more EXP and skill points than normal monsters (even if not using guardian aspect). To prevent some players from taking advantage of this system by completing most of a levequest, failing on purpose, and then trying the quest again immediately, we have made it impossible to retry a levequest immediately after failing it. However, this does not mean players are not allowed to retry levequests. By returning and talking to the NPC who issued the quest, players can gain the opportunity to retry the quest objectives.

SOURCE CLICKY

This is on the Japanese Official Final Fantasy XIV Site and is a report from a prelive event. It took me bloody hours to find that so I hope you are happy now and we can finally put an end to this discussion about this "exploit"

/endthread

[Randis]

i wish they remove the reset completely and have ppl do levequests non stop and set it up to be more like fov pages just with the quest attached. and get rewarded a nice sp vs gil and items. well maybe a lil gil.

I also wouldn't mind a counter at each camp so ppl can just stay in the camps vs going into town (saves anima i would assume)

I guess you still didn't play FFXIV...
without a reset people would just do leves all day for easy SP, the game would be a complete no brainer.
Faction leves would loose value and people would have more guildmarks than they can spend.

[MonsieurVerde]

How come nobody grinds normally any more? >_> Oh, right....cause guild leves spawn so many monsters.

[naero]

How come nobody grinds normally any more? >_> Oh, right....cause guild leves spawn so many monsters.

There's raptor parties, every so often... >.>