The future of F2P

[Tricksy]

While i am against XIV going to F2P model, mostly because i dont want to deal with kids (immature adults is different case), people that have been saying that F2P model means pay to win are also pretty ignorant, that might be the case 10 years ago, but most of F2P games these days only offers vanity items, cosmetics, pretty mounts etc. Nothing game breaking.

Stereotyping is terrible.

You are doing your own version of being ignorant. Most F2P games include P2W features, whether that be varied potions or exp boosts. These games would not be making money if the only thing people could pay to do was change their hairstyles, buy mounts without special benefits, or aesthetic wings.

The people threatening to quit over it going free to play think that the game will be any different if it is? lol

It will be the same game regardless, so whether I pay $10 a month to play or $10 a month on things that make me look cool it will make little difference to me. To be honest, it doesn't matter which way they go. If people are going to buy the game, they'll have a free month to begin with. If they like the game, then they'll subscribe. If the game is free to play, they'll decide to spend money on vanity items. The option is also there if people decide to not buy those optional items.

I couldn't give a shit which way they go, I'm playing anyway, and I bet everyone here would too.

Except that its not only vanity slots. Game companies goals are to bring in more than the monthly sub of a P2P game. It will cost more and have P2W features. The community will suffer. Many current FF14 players WILL leave whether they are NA, Eur and JP, because of these factors. So you probably should "give a shit".

And its a sad day when people are willing to whiteknight F2P, in order to whiteknight SE and FF14.


However, if 2.0 is horrible. I do hope the game goes F2P, another blow to SE's pride, that might wake them up to the fact that they need to figure their shit out.

[Chardrizard]

You are doing your own version of being ignorant. Most F2P games include P2W features, whether that be varied potions or exp boosts. These games would not be making money if the only thing people could pay to do was change their hairstyles, buy mounts without special benefits, or aesthetic wings.

I dont see that as definition of P2W, how is someone levelling faster makes them an auto-winner? I can understand that it might be unfair if it was increased droprate potions/increase melding rates, but that kind of things never appears these days in a good F2Ps. (ex. Guild Wars 2)

The way i see exp scrolls is the same as rested exp, it's useful for casuals players that wants to catch up faster.

[Tricksy]

I dont see that as definition of P2W, how is someone levelling faster makes them an auto-winner? I can understand that it might be unfair if it was increased droprate potions/increase melding rates, but that kind of things never appears these days in a good F2Ps. (ex. Guild Wars 2)

The way i see exp scrolls is the same as rested exp, it's useful for casuals players that wants to catch up faster.

P2W= Using real life money to gain an unfair advantage over those who choose to not pay.

Exp scrolls, HP/MP potions, etc