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  1. #261
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    Powercow's Avatar
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    Powercow Cowcow
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
    I'll be fine if equipping a great sword gives vastly different skills than a sword and shield.
    The other issue is allotted skill points. Many Paladins don't put points into str/mnd because, well, there's other options for a tank (looking at you, vitality.) Thus you'd have a larger disparity between the jobs coming from the same class, and if they're going to need different abilities, stats, and even weapons, then why have them come from the same class anyway? Why not have a whole new class?
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  2. #262
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    Mort's Avatar
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    Mort Strife
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Here's some of my spectulations.

    Gladiator:
    Sword and Shield = Paladin
    Greatsword = Dark Knight.

    Pugilist
    Knuckles = Monk
    Dual Daggers = Thief

    Lancer
    2-Handed spear = Dragoon
    1 Handed Spear and Shield = Templar

    Archer
    Bow = Bard
    Crossbow = Ranger

    Conjurer
    Wands & Staves = White Mage
    Batons or Whips= Summoner

    Thaumaturge
    Wands and Staves = Black Mage
    Bells or Tomes= Geomancer (Scholar perhaps?)

    Marauder
    Great Axe = Warrior
    Dual Axes = Beastmaster
    This is not bad ideas!

    Aslong as there is weapons for more classes, right now there aint enough to level up imo.
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  3. #263
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    Nuru's Avatar
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    Atehki Mejastra
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    The other issue is allotted skill points. Many Paladins don't put points into str/mnd because, well, there's other options for a tank (looking at you, vitality.) Thus you'd have a larger disparity between the jobs coming from the same class, and if they're going to need different abilities, stats, and even weapons, then why have them come from the same class anyway? Why not have a whole new class?
    Actually, im surprised you mentioned the skill point allotment. However, I do believe that even with this setup, ex. Gladiator = Paladin or Dark Knight. Skill allotment is more of a choice of which job the player prefers. I believe you have to at least sacrifice some skill points in order to be good at being a tank, or you can balance them and play both jobs with at least some stat boosts.

    It gives your character more of a personal touch to be honest. Instead of allotting your points to min/max everything for each job, you pretty much allot points towards the job your character is more fond of.

    Anyways, great thinking, but I'll have to go with keeping the system the way it is. Adding on more jobs to already-existing classes is more of a strategic train of thought.

    Adding on new jobs to classes would have to mean that classes should get new skills. Gladiator, for example, will probably have a few skills that change when a Greatsword is equipped. Instead of being the heavily armored tank, the Gladiator should have certain skills replaced when the Greatsword is equipped. More damaging abilities, enfeebling greatsword skills, etc.

    This game was, and is, heavily based around what weapon you are using, and what I just explained pretty much follows that idea.

    I should stop right now though before i get off track. lol
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    Last edited by Nuru; 08-02-2012 at 05:01 PM.

  4. #264
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    Reika's Avatar
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    Reika Shadowheart
    World
    Durandal
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 80
    Will a drk use: Flash, Rampart, Sentinel, Tempered will, phalanx, war drum, aegis boon, and outmaneuver and make use of ANY of GLD traits in an 'I deal damage from the rear' role? no, it will not. Those are for tanking. DRK coming off gld is fine if they plan to make it a tank. Because it can use riot blade more often (which is poor excuse because I use that a lot as pld anyways) is not nearly enough. You will end up with the whole DRK shouting LFG in jeuno for weeks with no replys all over, because the job would suck at dmg unless someone wanted a DRK tank.

    Rework Gladiator, or add a whole new class that has DRK written all over it. Prefere new class, because some of us who have 50 in everything could use something to level up anyways.

    The game needs new classes anyways, don't give SE any ideas about slacking off in that regard.
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    Last edited by Reika; 08-02-2012 at 05:44 PM.

  5. #265
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    Valmonte's Avatar
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    Character
    Felix Valmont
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 35
    I don't care what they do as far as what classes get new jobs, so long as the new jobs don't roll out instafifty. I tire of NPCing Gear because its not level 45+ish and for the love of god give Jobs there Own traits.
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