"The Adventures of RNG!" Top 3 Hamlet Provisioner

[Eagleheart]

the system as is isnt the issue
again, you seem to think you NEED to have a provisioner to make progress, you dont
the problem is, without one, you DO NEED SKILL to steadily get 60k points per run

yes, skill, challenge, something everyone is denying that is needed to do this

and time, yes, you need time, and if you dont have time for this, you dont have time for 17 minute runs, cuz you dont have time to practice to get to the point of doing them

The marginal level of skill required to complete Hamlet Defense is not the issue. The system is indeed an issue, however, we have another issue, as well.

That issue is the frail egos of certain individuals who seem to define themselves by their achievement ratings, and object to common-sense analysis of flawed event design for the sake of their self-regard.

The comedy is good, though.

[TheVedis]

The marginal level of skill required to complete Hamlet Defense is not the issue. The system is indeed an issue, however, we have another issue, as well.

That issue is the frail egos of certain individuals who seem to define themselves by their achievement ratings, and object to common-sense analysis of flawed event design for the sake of their self-regard.

The comedy is good, though.

if skill isnt needed why do people rage so much about "requiring" top 3s and top 20s and how hard it is to do that cuz they cant get 60k without it

that sounds like a challenge to me, and skill needed to keep 60k without

but make excuses, keep blaming others for the fact you cant get seals, or gear

or do what some do also, ignore the gear drops completely cuz seals are all that matter

[Kinseykinz]

if skill isnt needed why do people rage so much about "requiring" top 3s and top 20s and how hard it is to do that cuz they cant get 60k without it

that sounds like a challenge to me, and skill needed to keep 60k without

but make excuses, keep blaming others for the fact you cant get seals, or gear

or do what some do also, ignore the gear drops completely cuz seals are all that matter

I've said several times now... we get 60K WITHOUT a provisioner... last night in Aleport no provisoner =62K runs...

Again the point was just having a Top 3 provisioner should = more reward for the effort. Otherwise, we are better off NOT crafting/gathering mats and using that same time to run 1-2 more hamlets...we'd get the same results. Which is fine, we won't waste our time anymore provisioning the hamlets...but if more Mid-core people decide to do the same thing, the whole Hamlet stucture fails.

Having a level 2 hamlet RELIES on having large numbers of turn-ins...so those who turn-in should get a decent reward for the effort...the better the reward, the better the higher the numbers will be on turn ins=stable Hamlets Level 2 (or even higher when the higher ranked ones are introduced)

So fine, SE can keep it as is....as more LS's and people realize attempting to get a Top 3 position (or top 20) isn't worth their time, less will turn in...as less turn in Hamlets will drop to level 1 status. Then no one will get seals. Unless they go in the top 3....Catch 22 anyone?

[Krausus]

I've said several times now... we get 60K WITHOUT a provisioner... last night in Aleport no provisoner =62K runs...

Again the point was just having a Top 3 provisioner should = more reward for the effort. Otherwise, we are better off NOT crafting/gathering mats and using that same time to run 1-2 more hamlets...we'd get the same results. Which is fine, we won't waste our time anymore provisioning the hamlets...but if more Mid-core people decide to do the same thing, the whole Hamlet stucture fails.

Having a level 2 hamlet RELIES on having large numbers of turn-ins...so those who turn-in should get a decent reward for the effort...the better the reward, the better the higher the numbers will be on turn ins=stable Hamlets Level 2 (or even higher when the higher ranked ones are introduced)

So fine, SE can keep it as is....as more LS's and people realize attempting to get a Top 3 position (or top 20) isn't worth their time, less will turn in...as less turn in Hamlets will drop to level 1 status. Then no one will get seals. Unless they go in the top 3....Catch 22 anyone?

seals are not the only reason to get top 3.

[Kinseykinz]

seals are not the only reason to get top 3.

Again, hats are nice...gear is nice...90% of the people doing hamlets would give up the hats for 1 seal. So yeah, most people doing turn-ins are after the seals...

That being said, after 13 runs with a top 3. Got like a crazy amount of Ebonknots and 2 seals...no gears. So we could go the whole 'where's my Cutter's Hat' arguement too if you'd like. But you'd probably tell me people who don't have the patience to grind top 3 provisioner for eons, don't have the right to wear it. But the person who got it on their first attempt as a top 3 on the first clear does...