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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuciont View Post
    I don't like to side with the public enemy, as he doesn't even supply a reason as to why, but having little "pets" that follow you around really cheapens the feel of being a rough and tumble seasoned adventurer into a a baby animal collector.
    Who's to say we're ALL rough tough adventurers? It'd be one thing if you were forced to have a vanity pet to perform your role in a group better, but that's not really the case. It'd probably turn out like WoW where people either: a) seldom/never used pets, b) used the pets and obsessively collected them all for the sake of collecting them, or c) used the ones that made sense to them (ex: the guys RPing knights would use the argent squire vanity pet because it made sense for their character).

    Not to mention it's pretty one-dimensional to expect everyone to be grizzled and "tough". That'd be like expecting a guy like Sten in Dragon Age to be into biting kittens' heads off just because the guy is a powerhouse on the battlefield (when in reality the guy liked fine paintings, playing with kittens and picking flowers 0.o).
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Who's to say we're ALL rough tough adventurers? It'd be one thing if you were forced to have a vanity pet to perform your role in a group better, but that's not really the case. It'd probably turn out like WoW where people either: a) seldom/never used pets, b) used the pets and obsessively collected them all for the sake of collecting them, or c) used the ones that made sense to them (ex: the guys RPing knights would use the argent squire vanity pet because it made sense for their character).

    Not to mention it's pretty one-dimensional to expect everyone to be grizzled and "tough". That'd be like expecting a guy like Sten in Dragon Age to be into biting kittens' heads off just because the guy is a powerhouse on the battlefield (when in reality the guy liked fine paintings, playing with kittens and picking flowers 0.o).
    My point is that this is a feature that absolutely does not belong in this game. It does not fit whatsoever to have a little pet moogle or what the hell ever following you around in the heat of battle. Get too deep into it and you'll have stupid shit like magic boxes or flowers or whatever following you and everyone else around like in WoW. Keep it to WoW. No, I am not anti-WoW, I have played WoW and I don't mind pets in WoW because no one takes the setting seriously, not even the devs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuciont View Post
    My point is that this is a feature that absolutely does not belong in this game.
    Fair enough. You don't feel it is a feature that belongs in the game. I'll disagree. I don't think it takes away from the setting, and in part gives players who want to partake in it something to do. In a way that doesn't affect player performance.

    I have played WoW and I don't mind pets in WoW because no one takes the setting seriously, not even the devs.
    You're actually attempting to back your stance with "I can't take the game seriously if there's vanity pets"? Because the pets' presence will undo the end of the world, the horrors of the Garlean Empire, the hardships of Ala Migho, and will turn the underbelly of Uldah and Limsa Lominsa into the teddy bears on a picnic, amirite?

    Think of it less in tandem with the grim events in Eorzea and more as a reprieve from the hardships of the world (the way some look at pets in real life) or a contributor to overall character, specially if you're RPing. LolRP aside, of course.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Fair enough. You don't feel it is a feature that belongs in the game. I'll disagree. I don't think it takes away from the setting, and in part gives players who want to partake in it something to do. In a way that doesn't affect player performance.

    You're actually attempting to back your stance with "I can't take the game seriously if there's vanity pets"? Because the pets' presence will undo the end of the world, the horrors of the Garlean Empire, the hardships of Ala Migho, and will turn the underbelly of Uldah and Limsa Lominsa into the teddy bears on a picnic, amirite?

    Think of it less in tandem with the grim events in Eorzea and more as a reprieve from the hardships of the world (the way some look at pets in real life) or a contributor to overall character, specially if you're RPing. LolRP aside, of course.
    I don't remember the last time I saw people bringing their cats/dogs/hamsters out to war with them. If you want to have vanity pets that you can interact with in your estate, sure. I don't see a problem with that. Half the reason I couldn't take WoW seriously is they want to make you feel like you should feel threatened by whatever menace it is they're throwing at you, yet you have all these "warriors" with previously mentioned magical boxes, miniature versions of the expansions boss, space marines and all sorts of fourth wall breaking references following them around. This isn't Beverly Hills, we don't need to be skipping around showing off our "super cute" pets to our fellow adventurers. So yes, I am backing my argument up with I can't take it seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuciont View Post
    I don't remember the last time I saw people bringing their cats/dogs/hamsters out to war with them.
    it's actually very common...
    Wojtek, the soldier bear
    Rin tin tin
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    Military Mascots

    I can't believe, as a former coastie, I forgot SINBAD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Who's to say we're ALL rough tough adventurers? It'd be one thing if you were forced to have a vanity pet to perform your role in a group better, but that's not really the case. It'd probably turn out like WoW where people either: a) seldom/never used pets, b) used the pets and obsessively collected them all for the sake of collecting them, or c) used the ones that made sense to them (ex: the guys RPing knights would use the argent squire vanity pet because it made sense for their character).

    Not to mention it's pretty one-dimensional to expect everyone to be grizzled and "tough". That'd be like expecting a guy like Sten in Dragon Age to be into biting kittens' heads off just because the guy is a powerhouse on the battlefield (when in reality the guy liked fine paintings, playing with kittens and picking flowers 0.o).
    It has nothing to do with rough and tough adventure or anything you just said, it cheapens the game, just as he said. It makes the game feel cheap.
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