New coliseum gear too lewd

[Denmo]

PIDGEONS, YOU SAY?!

[Gramul]

[Asiaine]

Just to play Devil's Advocate. We have laws against murder and theft, for example.

You might say, "Well, as long as you're not hurting anyone, then people shouldn't have morals imposed on them." But that in itself is a moral and ethical judgement. Your argument here is philosophically bankrupt and contradictory, because you are deciding for them it is unacceptable for them to impose their morals on people, itself a moral judgement.

Now, if we want to discuss the *degree* to which it's acceptable to impose moral and ethical beliefs on people, that's another matter entirely.

Mostly unrelated to the topic at hand, simply putting things on a more solid philosophical footing as it continues.

Oh, an interesting philosophical debate.

You are correct, and I have considered the fact that:
By allowing the possibility of an action to occur, society and its ethical values itself can be affected. In other words, by allowing one to wear skimpy outfits, society could degrade such that everyone believes that wearing skimpy outfits should be considered normal. At this point the impact of the decision is no longer restricted to the original wearer but now has an effect to everyone else within that society.

This is a side-effect of civilization (in the sense of people living together in communities). Any decision one person makes, even if perceived to have no impact on any one else, can in fact impact everyone else. This then leads to the argument that every action one can make should only be done if the community deems it acceptable as it will eventually have an impact on the community as a whole.

So we have to decide to what extent do we wish to relinquish personal liberty & freedom in order to maintain community values. Or in fact, do we wish to expel community values in favour of differing personal view points. Or is one truly the other being manifsted in singular form but the source of which is an underlying sentiment throughout the community?

Rather than fill in 100 pages on discussion, I'll see if I can jump to the quick one liner:
Life is a constant struggle between our own personal beliefs and those of the community we live in. Sometimes the community will win and we suppress our personal beliefs (go to work dressed conservative rather than an anime character). Sometimes we win and the community will have to accept the choice we make (multiple piercings). Sometimes one influences the other resulting in a changing trend of both what the individual or the community deems 'acceptable' (everything done nowadays would be deemed totally unacceptable 100 years ago. And everything 100 years from now will probably be shock people today).

The only thing we can do is: Understand the reprecussions of the choice we make, and if the choice is worth it.

Perhaps the people of Eorzea will throw stones at women who dress this way, demanding them to wear burkas. Or perhaps they will just laugh and giggle and get over it.

In the mean time, everyone is of course free to voice their opinions (most of us live in a free world). But, to restrict what someone else can do because it imposes on your own ethical or moral belief infringes on other's personal liberty? This can only really be solved by the community (or village elders in the form of SE).

SE has decided they want this. SE is Japanese. It ain't going away ^.^;

(Btw, a stronger case may have been made if the ONLY option for equipment for women was these types of outfit... but it's not... quite the contrary).

[Jinrya-Geki]

But does it come in red!?

[AmyNeudaiz]

A must read for any pigeon lover. literally
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-fea...oful-boyfriend

[Nonsensicles]

http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=562

[Archie]

Here's my Dr. Frank-N-Furter impersonation.

[Nonsensicles]

Here's my Dr. Frank-N-Furter impersonation.

I weep for such beauty. ;_;

[Loony_BoB]

This reminds me of the dancers in beach volleyball (2012 Olympics) allegedly objectifying women. Yet they wear more than the sportswomen, there are men doing the same thing in the same dance crew on the same sand, and all of them are willing to do it, nay, they are not just willing, this is something they have worked towards for a long time. I would not say it is objectifying women (or men), but allowing people to do what they want to do and to be applauded for it.

Or perhaps you're right. Perhaps women should cover up. They have no place in today's world being able to decide what they wear, do they? That should be something decided by people who are not them.

Just imagine what would happen if men were to declare that females should cover up in public.

Conclusion: Women who don't want other women to wear what they want to wear are jealous of the other woman's body and/or insecure about their own bodies and/or horrified at the ugliness of the other woman's body and/or self rightously pushing their personal principles/beliefs onto other women rather than letting them to be their own woman.

Just let people wear what they like in video games.

[RexSkyborn]

at the end of the day, we all like pie