Primal battles in 2.0

[bobbygunz]

yes and no, instanced in a sense that one group is fighting it. No, because you are not in a desolate world where some how nobody can see you even if they are in the same area.

devs probably aren't competent enough to figure out how to do that or it wasn't in WoW first.

[Elexia]

devs probably aren't competent enough to figure out how to do that or it wasn't in WoW first.

Ironic, because Guildleves are instances on the open world which been around since the start.

[bobbygunz]

Ironic, because Guildleves are instances on the open world which been around since the start.

Such leve fights don't really have the complexity of a primal fight though.

[YeaniNah]

Does that mean no more chance to get Ifrit , garuda or Moogles weapon ???? cos its if become random NMS ...mean no more chance to kill it. Will have NMS farmer...and when search to kill it after 5hour search see it being kill be a party and have to wait and try to figure where he will appear next ..or after few our found it and got to go work.

That's so lame. When they don't do a levels quest and its appear at a randoms place in all world.To not have to much farming on that leves make that leves appear once a day.

Me too No one wanted to have me in party to kill any of them

[Dawiichan]

devs probably aren't competent enough to figure out how to do that or it wasn't in WoW first.

Or the fact that the way the fight is done would completely change depending on where you fight him, which would require impossible balancing for the dev team. You may not know this, but terrain can drastically change a fight.

Example: 13 nails in ifrit extreme. However your are in a forest and the amount of space to spawn those nails at the right proportions would be impossible because there are trees taking their location. Then when you want to aoe 3 nails, your aoes can't hit all 3 because there is an obstacle from the open world that doesn't let you position yourself correctly.

Now this is just one problem that could happen and could easily be fixed if it were by itself, but there are countless possibilities for where the balance of the fight could be broken because of the terrain you fight him. The outcome of all this being constant bitching similar to the hate about the fight being instanced.

This is why you fight primals in a certain location and not in a random location at thanalan or the black shroud, because the terrain works well with each primal's mechanics.

[Anima]

I'm still unsure even from those list they post, it's just Achievements and stuffs, not confirmation on "real content"

I have a few questions and I hope someone has a "real" answer, reps, devs, user, player anyone.

Is Instanced Primal contents gone with it's drops in 2.0 ?
If so, what will "Happen" to future Primal Battles like Titan and Leviathan ?
Instanced Ifrit and Garuda is staying for Relic, is it the only exception?

Will Faction leves stay in the New Leve system ?
Will Skirmish and its' drops stay ? Will Faction drops stay ?

In 2.0 will Old Sidequests, Job Quests and Class Quests for all(DoH, DoL, etc) be gone ?
If so, will the means of obtaining Crowns and Achievements be changed ?

It was mentioned that you will be able to change Grand Companies in 2.0.
Will we start from scratch ? or will we start from being a recruit in all GC ?
Will we be able to take on other GCs previous Quests ?

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Since Open World Primals is confirmed, will Moogle be in too ?


Assuming Dungeon and Hamlet is staying, so does their drops I guess 0.0

[MariyaShidou]

The so called Achievement are more tie-in to the story, and we all know that the Moogles won't be smashing down those Magitek Airshiprobot in v2.0, because if you look at trailer and concept arts etc. even the Garleans are going through aesthetic change (no more stick figure magitek). They will still be there, they will still be instanced, they will have a different battleground and a different story. For instance you will no longer see Darnustroll (teleporting every 5 sec for a whole 10 minutes, best Primal troll ever) during the cutscene for Easy Ifrit, nor Easy Garuda.

Dungeons achievements (not dungeons) are gone, why? Because Toto-rak, Darkhold and Aurum Vale is tie-in very closely to current Garlean invasion, or more specifically Darnustroll's VII Legion. The VII Legion will mostly like be wiped out during Dalamud descend.

[ArkNova]

Im hoping they introduce 2 versions of the primals. 1 that roams around on the world maps that free companies have a chance at defeating and summoning and 1 in a situation similar to XI's avatars, where you had to travel into a dungeon to fight and these would drop loot like weapons and maybe even primal themed gear. For them to have put a fair amount of thought into the Garuda fight only to wipe it out of existence in 2.0 doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.

[TheVedis]

ok so after reading it 50 thousand times, ive come to a conclusion

they refer to the gobbue mount as content being removed
but only to the achievemnts for everything else

therefore...the content is staying, the achievemnts are going.

my thoughts conclude that they will probly be introducing new achievemnts for all the fights/dungeons
this will be to reflect having done it pre 2.0 versus post 2.0, due to the battle mechanic changes that will be taking place, which could make all content very different in just that regard

[Catapult]

With regards to the camps and aetherytes, I do recall them talking about how with the maps changing, this would result in a completely new set of aethyrial gates across the game, which would have their own set of achievements. So those aren't much of a stretch.

If we... extrapolate, it means the purple aethers won't be there any more. Of course I am still drawing a slightly long bow if I wanted to tie that all the way to primal fight access.