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  1. #71
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    pak,though I agree to what you said aboyt being rude, but grimm is one of many forum trolls we got. Not the anto ffxiv kind, but the forum troll that post anything to get a rise out of players. He from the stuff I seen from them, nothing he writes is constructive, typed in a hostile tone, and just plain rude.

    I'm a ps3 player in waiting, I own the pc version but due to a pc mishap i currently have to wait. The only thing that peeving me off is the players atm. They are complaining about everything. Which is slowing the content. If the battle system didn't need to get fixed, for a 3rd time mind you.... we would have content.
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    LMAO. So everyone who has an extreme opinion is a troll. I mean come on all of you call someone a troll the moment they have a crazy idea. the word troll is so often use din forums now it has no meaning. And if starting over really upsets people to the point where they act like morons aren't they the losers?
    Ok, you posted up an option, but you gave no suggestions in the direction of your given option. You say "start from scratch, rewrite the whole thing". Ok, a suggestion. However, to what? At what point do you suggest a full, openable alternative to SE's current plan?

    you do not have an extream opinion, you have an ill thought out idea. If you can expand on your idea, properly, I imagine many people would listen. However, your idea is simple "change the whole thing". to what exactly? Pacman, Zelda, a waffle?

    Ok, those suggestions were silly, but only because you have not given any further input to your idea. I shall remind you.

    Stop working on FFXIV.

    Just stop. start over with the engine you have now mobs, races everything. Fix the landscapes fix the classes fix everything, Re-release it with PS3 and Digital DL for PC and everyone who paid for XIV originally gets it free on digital download off of a SE hosted download hub.

    That is in my opinion the only way SE will come back from this.
    Ok, you spark an idea. But where now? are we to take your word that all would be ok if SE listened to this? I personally would struggle to agree to that.

    what is YOUR plans for developing this game? what about story structure, land layout, combat system. class balancing, how would you develop a graphics team to come up with a aesthetic construct?

    Instead of simply complaing "this is rubbish" why dont you actually give some solid feedback in the forums. Maybe you should think about that, instead of your next child like post.

    Kimiko for the op, there is no X
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    Way to go. So we get a game we are able to play and provide feedback, vs. your idea of haulting development altogether and starting from scratch.

    You're a freaking moron, did you know that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paksenarrion View Post
    Wow. No need to be rude and mean. We are discussing our opinions. If you can't do so in a civilized and mature matter, I suggest you leave. And if you look at my signature, I am sure you can tell I have spent more than 2 minutes playing FFXIV, not to mention if you read the actual posts I started playing on the day of the release. I even invested in the limited edition. (Even though it wasn't even being sold in my country, and had to buy it from another.) That is how excited I was.

    Now, I have sadly gotten bored. Hey, I will be HAPPY to be proven wrong. That means I'll go back to a game I had been looking forward to for a long time.

    And since when is posting opinion and discussing trolling? This community sure is fast to throw the troll card.
    My post was in no way directed at you, sorry if you misunderstood.
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    Way to go. So we get a game we are able to play and provide feedback, vs. your idea of haulting development altogether and starting from scratch.

    You're a freaking moron, did you know that?
    Thankyou, so very much. Seriously, tears of joy are rolling down my face haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    They are complaining about everything. Which is slowing the content. If the battle system didn't need to get fixed, for a 3rd time mind you.... we would have content.
    This is EXACTLY what's wrong with the playerbase, and why what the OP said makes a little sense in a way. Too many people are complaining about the most inane and ridiculous things, it's like everyone is coming up with ideas and plans thinking that SE just has to sit back and soak up every single idea or gripe. I've seen everything from "I can't run around spamming jump like in WoW" to "OMG the spell animations don't match XI's". At what point will people be happy? They won't be, because the development team has that line of communication with the players right now, and the game is still being played are two of the factors.

    If they shut it down and went into a hole to re-develop, people would whine and complain because SE is going into a hole, but at least what comes out would be their idea for an MMO and their vision for it (with a few things here and there added and stuff from the new betas and whatnot)....that's not a great idea either, because for some people that would be the thorn in their ass to make them never touch the game again (which is slightly ridiculous). But on the flip side, at least they could focus on things, because I feel like the community is the reason that we get random updates here and there to try and shut people up....that's what they feel like. Making the spell animations bigger felt like that, I mean....people need to start realizing this is a team comprised of human beings, not deities.

    On the other hand, with this open development, lets be one with the players unification, development is literally going at a snails' pace....now, there are other factors, but honestly....everyone whining about some of the stupidest things I've ever seen in a game (I CAN'T JUMP SO ITS NOT A GOOD GAME NOR IS IT FUN!! WAHHH!) is ridiculous. At some point there needs to be a line that the dev. team needs to make so that not every opinion, gripe or complaint gets taken into consideration and added, because SE is in such a super state of damage control, that they're going overboard with it. The game will never, ever be "finished" if this keeps up, plain and simple. On the positive side, we get that communication and closeness with the team that SE is notoriously NOT known for, so that's cool....and we still get to play it, which is pretty cool, I'm enjoying playing it obviously.
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    Totally agree Kazahasi. I hope that SE, after the first few big patches with changes, calms down and stops listening to the players this much. Don't get me wrong, it is good there is some communication and it is good they are listening, but it is not good if they copy everything the players say.

    It will not feel as a whole. Not sure if I can explain what I mean. If they copy ideas of players, rather than using their own view and creativity it will just be a inconsistent mess rather than a whole experience.

    I would jump of joy if SE just commented and said: stop crying, no jump, no auction house, move on please. They should stop saying they are considering things, because that is giving the trolls even more reason to cry.
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    Heya!

    And this will be the fourth time.
    We can have fun while they work on the game in their local servers, letting us see the changes in real time. Why closing the servers so they can work on the game? They are already doing it while keeping us having fun.
    It's not just winning. It's BI-WINNING.

    See ya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renshi View Post
    Heya!

    And this will be the fourth time.
    We can have fun while they work on the game in their local servers, letting us see the changes in real time. Why closing the servers so they can work on the game? They are already doing it while keeping us having fun.
    It's not just winning. It's BI-WINNING.

    See ya!
    OH YEEE-AHH!
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    people need to start realizing this is a team comprised of human beings, not deities.
    Tbh, your post was very well put together. Constructive as well as adding ideas and directions. This quote however, should be the pillar of any community

    .everyone whining about some of the stupidest things I've ever seen in a game (I CAN'T JUMP SO ITS NOT A GOOD GAME NOR IS IT FUN!! WAHHH!) is ridiculous.
    It's like you read my mind, will you marry me (jk) lol
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