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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Kay. I'll own that.

    So what's your effing beef about me calling out FFXI's mistake in not tapping China's base then?.
    There is no beef about it, I'm stating exactly why they didn't initially go after it. No company will do business with people who are purposefully trying to hurt it. This is why now it makes a lot of sense they're trying to tap into the market now that all of the issues are settled and they can work with a company to make it happen.

    During the days when the chinese were DDoSing and mass hacking..honestly, it's not even "championing", it's common sense. They weren't DDoSing and hacking because it wasn't supported in China, they were doing it for money and "revenge" due to politics.

    2005-2008 was then, 2012+ is now. There are legitimate reasons why they didn't initially try to support China and even had to go so far as to block their access that the legit importers had to jump through hoops to continue to play the game.

    They would have had to make separate servers for them as well regardless of hacks or not, but you can't really think SE would have jumped at the chance to support them while that was the source of a lot of problems that ultimately caused SE to adapt the Token system.

    I know people love to give SE flack for things, but they're still a business and have some sense of business politics lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    There is no beef about it, I'm stating exactly why they didn't initially go after it. No company will do business with people who are purposefully trying to hurt it. This is why now it makes a lot of sense they're trying to tap into the market now that all of the issues are settled and they can work with a company to make it happen.

    During the days when the chinese were DDoSing and mass hacking..honestly, it's not even "championing", it's common sense. They weren't DDoSing and hacking because it wasn't supported in China, they were doing it for money and "revenge" due to politics.

    2005-2008 was then, 2012+ is now. There are legitimate reasons why they didn't initially try to support China and even had to go so far as to block their access that the legit importers had to jump through hoops to continue to play the game.

    They would have had to make separate servers for them as well regardless of hacks or not, but you can't really think SE would have jumped at the chance to support them while that was the source of a lot of problems that ultimately caused SE to adapt the Token system.
    Ok, let's get into specifics. I've no time to look it up, but wasn't Blizzard, in the same year spans in question, working with and setting up WoW Servers in China, when suffering form nearly identical issues?

    It just feels like SE generalized due to the political climate, and suffered a huge loss with profit opportunity while doing so, regardless of other issues at the time.

    Again, I'm not exact on my start date for WoW China servers, but the dealing at the very least had to be in the works during the issues with Chinese RMT and DDoS attacks - as Blizzard also adapted Security Tokens within the same 2 year span.
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