Primal battles in 2.0

[Elexia]

Yep. They'll be set up as roaming NMs which takes you into an instance (which defeats the purpose of making them roaming...)

So the fights that exist now won't exist in the same way in 2.0, probably just the ones regarding Relic, (extreme/garuda) but even then Yoshida said they'll make adjustments to the quest in 2.0, so who knows.

[Catapult]

Yep. They'll be set up as roaming NMs which takes you into an instance (which defeats the purpose of making them roaming...)

So the fights that exist now won't exist in the same way in 2.0, probably just the ones regarding Relic, (extreme/garuda) but even then Yoshida said they'll make adjustments to the quest in 2.0, so who knows.

Just pointing out that the part I've put in bold remains unconfirmed speculation. There is certainly a good argument for it being true, but so much remains completely unknown. The next clue will come when they release the list of achievements that can no longer be obtained in 2.0. If "had me some fun" (beat Ifrit in the bowl of embers) is on the list then we'll know.

[Ryans]

Just pointing out that the part I've put in bold remains unconfirmed speculation. There is certainly a good argument for it being true, but so much remains completely unknown. The next clue will come when they release the list of achievements that can no longer be obtained in 2.0. If "had me some fun" (beat Ifrit in the bowl of embers) is on the list then we'll know.

It is confirmed that the fight won't be exactly the same as it is now. They way you encounter the Primal is part of the fight. They could easily give you the same achievement for a different strategical fight and do something like "Ifrit summons a circle of flames around you" (Bowl of Embers) when you engage him in the open world and enter the instance.

[Alkar]

It is confirmed that the fight won't be exactly the same as it is now. They way you encounter the Primal is part of the fight. They could easily give you the same achievement for a different strategical fight and do something like "Ifrit summons a circle of flames around you" (Bowl of Embers) when you engage him in the open world and enter the instance.

No, it's not confirmed. We know that Primals will roam but we don't know if the current battlefields will be gone completely.
Yoshida already confirmed that Ifrit Extreme is here to stay which also means that Garuda's battle will as well. If Garuda is staying I don't see why Ifrit or Moogle should disappear.
And then there's the chat log in one of the 2.0 screenshots where someone is telling Linkshell members to gather at the Howling Eye which is where you currently fight Garuda.
So no, it's not confirmed and it'd be quite silly to assume so. The weapons aren't worth 2 weeks of waiting and that's assuming you even find the Primal once its released.

[TheVedis]

Yep. They'll be set up as roaming NMs which takes you into an instance (which defeats the purpose of making them roaming...)

So the fights that exist now won't exist in the same way in 2.0, probably just the ones regarding Relic, (extreme/garuda) but even then Yoshida said they'll make adjustments to the quest in 2.0, so who knows.

this has never been confirmed it has been only PLAYERS who keep saying this is going to happen

yet by the sounds of it both may exist seperately

[Elexia]

this has never been confirmed it has been only PLAYERS who keep saying this is going to happen

yet by the sounds of it both may exist seperately

Which part was never confirmed? Because it was confirmed by yoshida that they will be changing and there will be roaming primals. Hell he even used Ifrit in the latest example of roaming primals, we already knew about Odin being the roaming one.

[TheVedis]

Which part was never confirmed? Because it was confirmed by yoshida that they will be changing and there will be roaming primals. Hell he even used Ifrit in the latest example of roaming primals, we already knew about Odin being the roaming one.

he said "things will be changing" and "roaming primals will be added"

he never specificaly named primal battles as being changed/removed etc etc

[MariyaShidou]

he said "things will be changing" and "roaming primals will be added"

he never specificaly named primal battles as being changed/removed etc etc

To add to this, the only "roaming Primal" partially "confirmed" is only Odin, which is not available in pre 2.0. In addition, there will be multiple difficulty of Primal fight (Easy, Hard, Extreme) and it will not be possible to have this without instanced (Oh hey Easy Ifrit spawn next to Extreme Ifrit, how do we kill Easy?) and it doesn't even make sense of having multiple Ifrit roaming the open world.

[Elexia]

To add to this, the only "roaming Primal" partially "confirmed" is only Odin, which is not available in pre 2.0. In addition, there will be multiple difficulty of Primal fight (Easy, Hard, Extreme) and it will not be possible to have this without instanced (Oh hey Easy Ifrit spawn next to Extreme Ifrit, how do we kill Easy?) and it doesn't even make sense of having multiple Ifrit roaming the open world.

So Ifrit and Garuda are no longer primals? We know Free Companies can summon Primals if they defeat them and gain their card and in order to do so they must claim them in the overworld...i.e roaming.

I don't know if you played FFXI or not but multiple versions can exist. Multiple ways of encountering them is more than possible. Ifrit Extreme itself is already different quest compared to Ifrit hard and guess what? It exists at the same time as Ifrit it Bleeds...amazing. So unless Yoshida is talking about new primals and Odin only, I'm pretty sure the thing that's being purposefully left out is the fact Garuda and Ifrit are primals too. Another thing that is easily forgotten, is the easy/hard versions have 7th Umbral Era ties. as in it's intertwined into the storyline that will go away come 2.0

So there's more than enough evidence and reasoning as to why Yoshida said the fights in this form will go away in 2.0 and what was confirmed thus far is they'll be roaming, then we know Ifrit X will remain as that's unrelated to the 7UE for the most part. So we know the instances in regards to the Relic Quest will remain which simply means there will 2 versions of Garuda and 2 version of Ifrit.

[TheVedis]

So Ifrit and Garuda are no longer primals? We know Free Companies can summon Primals if they defeat them and gain their card and in order to do so they must claim them in the overworld...i.e roaming.

I don't know if you played FFXI or not but multiple versions can exist. Multiple ways of encountering them is more than possible. Ifrit Extreme itself is already different quest compared to Ifrit hard and guess what? It exists at the same time as Ifrit it Bleeds...amazing. So unless Yoshida is talking about new primals and Odin only, I'm pretty sure the thing that's being purposefully left out is the fact Garuda and Ifrit are primals too. Another thing that is easily forgotten, is the easy/hard versions have 7th Umbral Era ties. as in it's intertwined into the storyline that will go away come 2.0

So there's more than enough evidence and reasoning as to why Yoshida said the fights in this form will go away in 2.0 and what was confirmed thus far is they'll be roaming, then we know Ifrit X will remain as that's unrelated to the 7UE for the most part. So we know the instances in regards to the Relic Quest will remain which simply means there will 2 versions of Garuda and 2 version of Ifrit.

you are STILL taking things out of context, no where did he say primals are going away

when he said things will change, he wasnt even refering directly to primals themselves

and as you said, its possible for multiple versions to exist, so again, why cant it be possible for the instance endgame fight, AND the free company instance fight exist? there is no reason at all

you are backing up the opinion you have, with no proof at all for its accuracy and now that youve backed yourself into a corner and people have pretty much proven all you are spouting off is "heresay" and rumor, and not fact at all, your fighting for people to just believe you.


when we have proof, we will have it, til then, its a rumor, and in no way shape or form a sure thing to happen the way you "think" it will

when we have proof, then we will have proof one way or another