FFXI Dragoon No invites repeated

[Malix]

Diversity isnt happening even if speedrun not there.

Prove > Ifrit, Moogle, Garuda.
PUGs will still stack classes because they are least path of resistance.

You are dellusional if you thinks ppl will suddenly stop class stacking if they remove speedrun.

Heres the problem with your theory. It assumes that everyone is elitest when it fact most players are either A. getting thier info from people who cleared the content first or B. people use whatever it takes to win with the most rewards. if u eliminate speed runs for example there WILL still be people who will try to use the best classes for the fastest runs BUT there will be more people doin the content because they can use more classes.

[Chardrizard]

Heres the problem with your theory. It assumes that everyone is elitest when it fact most players are either A. getting thier info from people who cleared the content first or B. people use whatever it takes to win with the most rewards. if u eliminate speed runs for example there WILL still be people who will try to use the best classes for the fastest runs BUT there will be more people doin the content because they can use more classes.

Except you can speedrun even with any varieties of classes right now and people still stack classes anyway?

so the core problem isn't with the speedrun, the problem is people would go with the least resistance path when given the chance, like it or not.. everyone like it the easy way.

[Velhart]

Except you can speedrun even with any varieties of classes right now and people still stack classes anyway?

so the core problem isn't with the speedrun, the problem is people would go with the least resistance path when given the chance, like it or not.. everyone like it the easy way.

Well like I said before, it is just the mind flow of FFXIV players to stack a class with the least resistance. I am just hoping 2.0 gives us fights that don't call for class stacking while retaining it's difficulty. Also hoping the mind flow of western MMO players will show itself. I will see what happens.

[Krausus]

noob's use blm because they think because BLM hit hard they are the best DPS, but really there not there just hi hitters its the Overall DPS that matters. i seen loads of DRG out whoop everyone in a Ifrit party.

Me and a few mates of mine after 1.21 came out starting messing about with mnk burns on ifrit and after a few days of trying we finally did it and now we got that shit down.

If i feel like playing DRG to an endgame event and dont get to play it well fuck it i'm not going we shouldnt have to play jobs we dont want to just to get gear for our main that may also never be used.

People need to open there minds a little more and take chances fuck the safe way.

I could say the same thing with exactly the opposite meaning. I like to play Dragoon it is my main but im not gonna gimp the other 7 people in my group when I could easily switch to a more needed/wanted class. Not to say DRG isnt good in Moogle or Ifrit, it is actually very beast in most any situation. Though I hate people with your type of attitude that think more about yourself instead of your group.

[Molly_Millions]

DRG burn in the Princess fight is the fastest strategy. So, I'll just leave you with that. Every class is usefull in this game. So in order to be the best you can be in all scenarios in this game you MUST level all battle classes.

[Tango]

DRG gets plenty of love (ifrit, ifrit-xtreme, princess, mistress), right now the jobs are actually balanced surprisingly well. Of course each fight has optimized setups and DRG has its places to shine.

[Malix]

Except you can speedrun even with any varieties of classes right now and people still stack classes anyway?

so the core problem isn't with the speedrun, the problem is people would go with the least resistance path when given the chance, like it or not.. everyone like it the easy way.

not really. have to use specific setup for 17min speed runs

[Chardrizard]

not really. have to use specific setup for 17min speed runs

We were talking about regular speedrun werent we? 17min is only for relic and isnt tied to darklight drop.

[Hyrist]

I could say the same thing with exactly the opposite meaning. I like to play Dragoon it is my main but im not gonna gimp the other 7 people in my group when I could easily switch to a more needed/wanted class. Not to say DRG isnt good in Moogle or Ifrit, it is actually very beast in most any situation. Though I hate people with your type of attitude that think more about yourself instead of your group.

That's a difference in perspective between you and I.

You believe I'm harming a group by specializing into a single job. I view it as providing them the best that job can offer by specializing. If me being in the group is viewed as highly harmful, I'll opt out.

But if I jump on some class I have leveled just to get my paragons crown in order to conform to the groups wishes, I can't guarantee the same level of performance anymore. I'm now on an under-geared and personally undervalued class my focus is conflicted and my instincts are that of a Dragoon, not a Black Mage or whatever job I have to switch to.

When I'm playing Dragoon, I'm focused, I know my extents and limits.

When I offer my DRG, you know what you're getting. You can be sure that I want to push as hard as I can as safe as I can and be the best DRG I can offer. I can't guarantee that on a job I'm flatly not interested in.

[Krausus]

That's a difference in perspective between you and I.

You believe I'm harming a group by specializing into a single job. I view it as providing them the best that job can offer by specializing. If me being in the group is viewed as highly harmful, I'll opt out.

But if I jump on some class I have leveled just to get my paragons crown in order to conform to the groups wishes, I can't guarantee the same level of performance anymore. I'm now on an under-geared and personally undervalued class my focus is conflicted and my instincts are that of a Dragoon, not a Black Mage or whatever job I have to switch to.

When I'm playing Dragoon, I'm focused, I know my extents and limits.

When I offer my DRG, you know what you're getting. You can be sure that I want to push as hard as I can as safe as I can and be the best DRG I can offer. I can't guarantee that on a job I'm flatly not interested in.

but you have the attitude of putting the group before yourself which is good, I'm specifically talking about folks that refuse to play any other class because they only want to play one class. I guess DRG is a bad example since it is good in just about any situation. Hamlets come to mind though which DRG is completely useless in.