FFXI Dragoon No invites repeated

[Chardrizard]

not really. have to use specific setup for 17min speed runs

We were talking about regular speedrun werent we? 17min is only for relic and isnt tied to darklight drop.

[Molly_Millions]

DRG burn in the Princess fight is the fastest strategy. So, I'll just leave you with that. Every class is usefull in this game. So in order to be the best you can be in all scenarios in this game you MUST level all battle classes.

[Tango]

DRG gets plenty of love (ifrit, ifrit-xtreme, princess, mistress), right now the jobs are actually balanced surprisingly well. Of course each fight has optimized setups and DRG has its places to shine.

[KoujiGeki]

Remember that game, FFXI? You know, the one where dragoons never got invites to parties? I am very, very disappointed that the no dragoon culture persists in FFXIV.

I'm relatively new to the 50 game and DRG was my first 50. I've done Ifrit. I've done Moogle. Despite this, I still have trouble getting into pug groups for these fights. What is wrong with everyone!?! Dragoons are amazing! Stop hating and start inviting. /endrant /thankyou

Drgs are amazing and they dont get the credit they deserve cause of this games horrible AoE fest, I fear even more for Dark Knight seeing as Drg has half of its own abilities and Drks usually have moves that hurt themselves, which sucks more cause whm dont wanna have to heal a dd right now, god help then when a job need more healing than a tank.

[Pwnznewbz]

I didn't expect this kind of conversation to start off what I said. I've seen a few people say things that I agree with completely.

-I like playing dragoon over other classes.
-I'm best with dragoon because I play it the most, so it benefits others to have me play this class.
-I do agree that not every NM fight (ie Ifrit, Garuda) require 5-6 dragoons. However, there is a huge difference between a group leader saying "I don't need dragoons because I have them" and "I'm only taking ranged dps bc dragoons are useless."
-I think leveling multiple classes is the part of any mmo, but I don't like that it feels mandatory. I'm not talking sub class ability mandatory (like sentinel for white mage mandatory), but rather mandatory to get a group to do anything. I just leveled my 2nd class to 50 (white mage). I like leveling multiple classes, I just don't like that it feels mandatory for groups.

Anyhow, this is a great discussion about the under valuation of dragoons.

[Krausus]

I didn't expect this kind of conversation to start off what I said. I've seen a few people say things that I agree with completely.

-I like playing dragoon over other classes.
-I'm best with dragoon because I play it the most, so it benefits others to have me play this class.
-I do agree that not every NM fight (ie Ifrit, Garuda) require 5-6 dragoons. However, there is a huge difference between a group leader saying "I don't need dragoons because I have them" and "I'm only taking ranged dps bc dragoons are useless."
-I think leveling multiple classes is the part of any mmo, but I don't like that it feels mandatory. I'm not talking sub class ability mandatory (like sentinel for white mage mandatory), but rather mandatory to get a group to do anything. I just leveled my 2nd class to 50 (white mage). I like leveling multiple classes, I just don't like that it feels mandatory for groups.

Anyhow, this is a great discussion about the under valuation of dragoons.

but I think Dragoon is a bad example because anyone that knows anything about this game knows that Dragoons are beast in most situations. There are a few exceptions such as AV speed runs simply because BLM power on coincutter + the ability to stay out of range of his melee AoEs and MNK power on mistress. And Chimera being mostly a ranged battle since it makes it so much easier. And then there is hamlet which isnt a dragoon specific issue its a no dps needed issue. If people are telling you no DRG on any other content then ignorance is to blame.

[Elexia]

If people are telling you no DRG on any other content then ignorance is to blame.

This is the FFXIV most people know and lo-hate. While it's obvious DRG works in a lot of content, especially if you're feeling adventurous this isn't the case for most people.

I can safely say it's only a minority of the community that doesn't autoshun DRG/MNK from content while the majority only care for BLM stacking.

[Gukie]

i dont know what your talking about cuz dragoon are good dps vs some monsters on xiv

[Elexia]

i dont know what your talking about cuz dragoon are good dps vs some monsters on xiv

DRG is probably the best DD on Ifrit (Hard and Extreme) especially due to it's reach...but it takes some iota of brain power to know how to play it versus the lack of brain power used to play THM/BLM in it.

[Alerith]

My fastest Ifrit kill to date has been with a party consisting of WHMx2 (One for healing, one for dedicated Stone/Aero spam), PLD, BLM, DRG, DRG, DRG, DRG.

And I highly doubt the BLM was a dealbreaker considering how skillfully these DRGs performed.