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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    That great and all, but OP was asking how to get max stats, someone gave him their set up and you tried to say "so and so is better" while also trying to lash out at them for saying something retarded about PTY and PIE to make yourself look better by correcting something that doesn't matter.

    Like I said, if you are already at str cap and enough ACC, what you said would be wrong about those being best in this situation, like I also said, it depends how you get to your max stats etc.... Does no one on these forums read? Because I never said you wrong (well till essentially now). I told you to not jump in here and not use your head pretty much.

    I really should get away from these forums, too many idiots. I really hope loldrg never makes it back, but IDK if there is any hope.
    1. theres nothing "trying to look" better about correcting a stupid mistake, it is PIE not PTY.
    2. you did call me wrong, and insulted me in the process.

    go patronize someone else with your misleading information, and arrogant attitude, as the only idiot here is you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggles View Post
    1. theres nothing "trying to look" better about correcting a stupid mistake, it is PIE not PTY.
    2. you did call me wrong, and insulted me in the process.

    go patronize someone else with your misleading information, and arrogant attitude, as the only idiot here is you.
    Cool story

    Quote Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss View Post
    I use the following:
    Darklight Helm +15 STR
    Darklight Corselet +20 STR
    Scarlet Sash +3 PTY
    Militia Subligar +20 PTY
    Darklight Caligae +15 PTY
    Fingerless Raptorskin Gloves of Slaying 3x meld +43 STR
    Explorer's Earrings
    Electrum Gorget +1
    Tourmaline Bracelets +1 +4 PTY
    Tourmaline Ring +1 +18 PTY
    Rubellite Ring +1 +18 STR

    This gives me 351 STR, 305 PTY (312 after Jerked Beef)

    This is just one way to hit cap, no matter how you do it you are going to need rare gear or a few 3x meld crafted.
    Lets use this info again. She/he is at her caps with jerked beef, but around 369ish acc (idk for sure because I'm a highlander so she may have a diff ACC.) solo. That's not even including the fact they may be using Garuda, which would be 394ish ACC maybe give or take a couple. Now again, this is solo, not even full PT buff. Now please explain to me my misleading info where a str/acc belt and a pie/acc gloves are going to be better then what they have. She would be getting more benefit with the atk from the gloves she is using then adding on more pie/acc.

    I am a complete idiot though, I understand
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    Last edited by Eliseus; 07-14-2012 at 04:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    Cool story



    Lets use this info again. She/he is at her caps with jerked beef, but around 369ish acc (idk for sure because I'm a highlander so she may have a diff ACC.) solo. That's not even including the fact they may be using Garuda, which would be 394ish ACC maybe give or take a couple. Now again, this is solo, not even full PT buff. Now please explain to me my misleading info where a str/acc belt and a pie/acc gloves are going to be better then what they have. She would be getting more benefit with the atk from the gloves she is using then adding on more pie/acc.

    I am a complete idiot though, I understand
    Rofl, you complete don't understand DL set, DL Caligae and DL Corselet alone give +28 Acc. He also has Garuda's Spine, which add +25 Acc, with DL pieces that's +53 Acc. If your buddy loldrg said he has 341 Acc naked, that's 341 + 53 = 394 Acc without any Acc boost accessories. Go trolling somewhere, loldrg. You seriously know nothing about gears and spam nonesense here. If he seriously wants Acc, Stuffed Cabbage give both 34 Acc and 7 PIE.

    Oops I forgot: No, you are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariyaShidou View Post
    Rofl, you complete don't understand DL set, DL Caligae and DL Corselet alone give +28 Acc. He also has Garuda's Spine, which add +25 Acc, with DL pieces that's +53 Acc. If your buddy loldrg said he has 341 Acc naked, that's 341 + 53 = 394 Acc without any Acc boost accessories. Go trolling somewhere, loldrg. You seriously know nothing about gears and spam nonesense here.

    Oops I forgot: No, you are wrong.
    Huh, wtf are you talking about?
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    Oops........

    Yea well I'm dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariyaShidou View Post
    Rofl, you complete don't understand DL set, DL Caligae and DL Corselet alone give +28 Acc. He also has Garuda's Spine, which add +25 Acc, with DL pieces that's +53 Acc. If your buddy loldrg said he has 341 Acc naked, that's 341 + 53 = 394 Acc without any Acc boost accessories. Go trolling somewhere, loldrg. You seriously know nothing about gears and spam nonesense here. If he seriously wants Acc, Stuffed Cabbage give both 34 Acc and 7 PIE.

    Oops I forgot: No, you are wrong.
    ^ no normal, everyday drg is going to achieve this over night. to set it as the standard is just plain dumb.
    people should be giving OP realistic advice, not I HAVE A GIGANTIC EPEEN LOOK AT MY 1337 GEAR advice.

    average gear the OP can get could include:
    hart guisarme/gc spear
    cobalt haubergeon/tortoiseshell scale mail +2x pie
    cobalt mitt/felt bracers 2x str
    veteran's field belt
    AFpants/GC hose (if your from limsa these are decent)
    af shoes
    af helmet
    2x str or 1xstr 1x acc ring
    electrum gorget
    explorers or GC earring (again, limsa's is great)

    capping stats isnt as important as capping acc, because it harms your damage a lot more than missing some str would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggles View Post
    ^ no normal, everyday drg is going to achieve this over night. to set it as the standard is just plain dumb.
    people should be giving OP realistic advice, not I HAVE A GIGANTIC EPEEN LOOK AT MY 1337 GEAR advice.

    average gear the OP can get could include:
    hart guisarme/gc spear
    cobalt haubergeon/tortoiseshell scale mail +2x pie
    cobalt mitt/felt bracers 2x str
    veteran's field belt
    AFpants/GC hose (if your from limsa these are decent)
    af shoes
    af helmet
    2x str or 1xstr 1x acc ring
    electrum gorget
    explorers or GC earring (again, limsa's is great)

    capping stats isnt as important as capping acc, because it harms your damage a lot more than missing some str would.
    Quit trying to change your story, its saddening. Now that you know you are wrong in that situation its all about the average guy now? Also, any "average" guy the has the means and time to meld gear also has access to get darklight, it is puggable dungeons. I'm just saying, so the AVERAGE JOE can get that gear. "Blah blah blah I know you are right but you are a troll and apparently mislead people with accurate information."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    Quit trying to change your story, its saddening. Now that you know you are wrong in that situation its all about the average guy now? Also, any "average" guy the has the means and time to meld gear also has access to get darklight, it is puggable dungeons. I'm just saying, so the AVERAGE JOE can get that gear. "Blah blah blah I know you are right but you are a troll and apparently mislead people with accurate information."
    im not changing anything jackass. the topic has been changed, get with the times.

    not only that, you arent going to PUG garuda or a speed run with random people, it just doesnt work that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggles View Post
    im not changing anything jackass. the topic has been changed, get with the times.

    not only that, you arent going to PUG garuda or a speed run with random people, it just doesnt work that way.
    Pug people all the time. Find better pugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggles View Post
    ^ no normal, everyday drg is going to achieve this over night. to set it as the standard is just plain dumb.
    people should be giving OP realistic advice, not I HAVE A GIGANTIC EPEEN LOOK AT MY 1337 GEAR advice.

    average gear the OP can get could include:
    hart guisarme/gc spear
    cobalt haubergeon/tortoiseshell scale mail +2x pie
    cobalt mitt/felt bracers 2x str
    veteran's field belt
    AFpants/GC hose (if your from limsa these are decent)
    af shoes
    af helmet
    2x str or 1xstr 1x acc ring
    electrum gorget
    explorers or GC earring (again, limsa's is great)

    capping stats isnt as important as capping acc, because it harms your damage a lot more than missing some str would.
    I'm going to say go for a Hart +1 if at all possible as a first priority, given how DPS is a major factor in damage output of our Weapon Skills. Keep in mind that you can socket at least one good meteria on it to offset any losses in your base stats (Including Accuracy) of your build. It won't make up for the whole of the damage output, but it will help offset the loss a little.

    When the consumable Sanction item comes out, the Sergeant's spear becomes an obvious superior to Heart, and cheap to purchase. For those who do not have continual successes in runs currently, however, Sanction itself isn't a dependable mechanic. That changes depending on the cost effectiveness of the Sanction Consumable.


    If you're shopping on Excalibur, you're likely going to find more double Piety Melds for tortoiseshell than Colbalt. Provided you have an Armorer in your LS, however, I'd recommend you go to them. To do Melds for you. Gathering or buying the meterials for the armor and taking the chance on getting a lucky early meld often works out cheaper than blowing several million on a body piece. In those situations you're paying for someone else's bad luck.

    The same goes worth Cobalt/Felt mitts.

    I consider Belts an Accessory, and will explain why in a minute.

    No comment on Limsa Hose, Gridanian flatly isn't worth it.

    Boots are flexible. Cobalt comes with some accuracy and STR attached so keep that in mind.


    Now a lot of my build is fluid through inexpensive means. Just gathering together some of the cheaper accessories, belts, and legs can let you change an aspect of your build depending on what you are fighting on the fly.

    Here's an example: For accuracy. I've Veterans Belt, Explorer's Choker, Electrum Rings, and Cobalt Sollerets.

    For Enmity: I use DRG AF boots and a Melded Belt. Usually I wear this when split groups are concerned or I'm worried about ripping hate off the Tank.

    If I'm solo or not in any real concern for either of the above, I've Got explorer's Belt and Boots for Crit hit rate. Speeds things up significantly for hunting and farming.

    A note for Gridanians, our Choker beats Electrum +1 so get that instead of the Attack Necklace, especially if you're working for enough GC set items for your Spear, or you're just looking to get some extra stats without spending extra gil. Possibly the best accessory to come out of our GC set, sadly.

    Most of this is inexpesnive and I've got the full of it. You won't cap STR without a meld on your weapon in this set up, but if you get decent melds (Double Fours on both) You'll get within food range of capping either in your optimum stat builds.

    Be sure to parse your accuracy when making gear adjustments, however. The accuracy requirements for events can vary wildly and you will hurt yourself with an over-emphasis on accuracy when your stats are not capped otherwise, and vice versa when you're undershooting accuracy on high evasion targets.
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    Last edited by Hyrist; 07-14-2012 at 09:50 PM.

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