Why do you want an Auction House? (discussion)[dev1019]

[Kaedan]

there is no comparison dude moghouse with storage+AH&mail system beats out this damn retainer alley sh!T any day not saying that the retainers as they are atm are not functional just saying the combo i just listed is so freakin obviously better come on how could ppl even argue about the 2

An AH/mail system is not significantly different than the MW atm. You'd still have to spend time running to a mail box or to your Mog house (if you had your way).

[Randis]

(yes, i played FFXI and liked the AH)

But i must admit that i really enjoyed the old market wards, i liked walking round, checking out what goods others had, i enjoyed looking at the gear and whenever i found a good deal i enjoyed buying it. It added a certain charm and realism to this world (AH is like ebay)
However once the search function was added i lost the fun in windows shopping and walking around. the search is without doubts very convenient and more efficient as you can find all items included the misplaced ones and compare the prices.
And now that the fun of walking around and searching is gone it starts getting rather annoying so yes, now i want AH. Thank you

[CrystalW]

I'd love the AH being implemented on this game it's so much better, why?

_If you share the auction house between the 3 starter cities, more people will stay in Gridania and Limsa rather than go to Ul'dah because they can find what they need there.

_Unlike someone said, it doesn't benefit sellers, because being able to see what price people put their stuff for, its easy to undercut, leading to low prices. Price history is more interesting in that case (even if it has downsides like XXXX item stays at the same price cause everyone puts it for this much).

_Having to place items into your retainer, pressing back, going into bazaar, putting the item into bazaar is annoying! Even more because the system is so slow.

_When you want to buy multiple items, you have to get the first one (I always have to check again because I forget the name of the cheapest seller called xxblablaweirdname), then you need to look again, put the little star up and zone to some other row (I keep pressing the fronds by mistake too) whereas into an AH system like FFXI you buy and get it in your inventory then move on.

_The rows getting full! You get to pay the extra fee because the row is packed (Battlecraft and Middle Tailer's for example)


That's all I can think about for now

[Corrderio]

_Unlike someone said, it doesn't benefit sellers, because being able to see what price people put their stuff for, its easy to undercut, leading to low prices. Price history is more interesting in that case (even if it has downsides like XXXX item stays at the same price cause everyone puts it for this much).

Actually both the wards and an AH are pretty much on the same ground for undercutting. Yes market wards show the exact price whereas the AH was a bit of a mystery, however at the same time people undercutted since the lower price always took priority on what sold first.

[AntonyB]

The FFXI style auction house is 110% better than any retainer system they try to implant for many reasons;

- An AH never crashes at all.

- All items are listed & categorized(Which is is not but unable to see the HQ versions UNLIKE FFXI AH)

- The AH was linked to the main citys(Should have been linked to all really but atleast it was linked unlike the MWs) Jeuno<>Whitegate, Bastok, Sandy, Windy and the other remaining 1s did not link to the main AH(Jeuno/WG) but that can/should be implanted.

- Unlike the market wards, you do not need to keep checking that your retainer has crashed and needs to be resummoned.

- Fair enough 7 items was not enough but that can be highered.

- The tax % was always the same on the AH, unlike needing to be in the correct row for items like it is now and getting and extra 3% tax added, for example needing to sell multiple items at the same time(Field/Battle/Reagents) then you could only be in 1 row if u wanted all listed. ALSO not all the rows have space for u to put your retainer since some of them can get full, this causing you to have to summon it somewhere else and have the extra 3% tax.

- AHs have a price history if even if there is currently nothing listed under that item. Market Wards DO NOT and people will ALWAYS put for a stupid price like what happens on my server(Besaid).

- MWs people undercut like hell just because they can see what prices people have put, many times I have crafted items and put onto my retainer for 50k(example) and then checked afew hours/day later and noticed that 6 someone has crafted 6 of this item and undercut it by 20k and then another 3 people have then undercut him also and the price is now only 5k.

For all the people that talk about having to run to your mailbox to pick up your items or having to wait x days for people to bid on it. You are all wrong, FFXI style AH was nothing like this; the items appeared in your inv once purchased and it was only "buyout" if u will rather than bidding.

I for 1 really hope they implant an Auction House due to the many fail reasons of the Market Wards.

[AntonyB]

Actually both the wards and an AH are pretty much on the same ground for undercutting. Yes market wards show the exact price whereas the AH was a bit of a mystery, however at the same time people undercutted since the lower price always took priority on what sold first.

Yes most people under cut my just afew gil, where as people using the Market Wards undercut my thousands/millions(See this with the NW stuff).

[Corrderio]

Yes most people under cut my just afew gil, where as people using the Market Wards undercut my thousands/millions(See this with the NW stuff).

I haven't really done a lot of shopping so I wouldn't know. However the point is kind of moot since all games have undercutting, no matter what way you look at it.

However I do agree with the rest of your points. I do think the retainer limits and each city having it's indiviudal ward will be the undoing of the MWs.

[CrystalW]

Actually both the wards and an AH are pretty much on the same ground for undercutting. Yes market wards show the exact price whereas the AH was a bit of a mystery, however at the same time people undercutted since the lower price always took priority on what sold first.

This is true, which is why I said there is downsides, but I found that Market Wards undercutting was worse than Auction House which is why I like the latter system better. With AH its a bit harder to keep a price up because of the history. But a lot of the time, people will undercut by 1 gil, 10gil, 100g, 1000g. Just NOT AS OFTEN by 20k or whatever people do with the Market Wards.

[Kaedan]

This is true, which is why I said there is downsides, but I found that Market Wards undercutting was worse than Auction House which is why I like the latter system better. With AH its a bit harder to keep a price up because of the history. But a lot of the time, people will undercut by 1 gil, 10gil, 100g, 1000g. Just NOT AS OFTEN by 20k or whatever people do with the Market Wards.

Maybe that should give you a clue that it isn't them undercutting, it's you overcharging?

[CrystalW]

Maybe that should give you a clue that it isn't them undercutting, it's you overcharging?

And how would you know that mister? Pointless argument much