Interview of Naoki Yoshida during the Japan Expo

[DarthTaru]

Yes, because they just didn't have the right botting tool.

Jokes aside, I can't agree to content that is inaccessible beyond in-game difficulty. Everyone bad or good should have a shot at any content the game offers. You can say "Ohh maybe they should get better at claiming like us.", that isn't a really good statement, since player created difficulty in PvE content is just simply poor MMO design. You pay monthly for the game, you shouldn't have to fight other players on the provoke button to experience content.

Open world primal is fair. Because it spawns in a completely random location and your chance of grabbing it is the same as everyone else. No one will be sitting there on a window timer for them to spawn, and it is instanced so no interference from other players. This is fair competition and being accessible by anyone who happens to catch him at the time.

In open world everyone does have a fair shot to `experience` the content. You're on a server. I'm on the server. A mob pops on the server.

It doesn't pop in my Rental Room. How is it unfair?
This is like arguing that difficult content is unfair to bad players.

If you can't kill and instance and someone else can, that's the breaks.
If you can't claim an open world HNM and someone else can, that's the breaks.

What are you and your ilk going to say if the best bodypiece post 2.0 drops from an instanced fight that wipes you and your group out in 30 seconds flat everytime you go in to fight it and that never changes? Not fair?

Personally, I like open world HNMs for a few reasons, one of the most important ones being that I feel it gives live and almost justifies a zones existence, gives it depth, etc. I prefer a living, breathing game world. Not just zones that serve as distance to cover to reach a fight.

[Jinko]

If you can't kill and instance and someone else can, that's the breaks.
If you can't claim an open world HNM and someone else can, that's the breaks.

What are you and your ilk going to say if the best bodypiece post 2.0 drops from an instanced fight that wipes you and your group out in 30 seconds flat everytime you go in to fight it and that never changes? Not fair?

You seem like a fairly intelligent person, yet you still don't get it.

Everyone having the chance = good

Only a small handful of people getting the chance = bad.

It doesn't matter if you are successful or die in 3 seconds its about allowing people to try and try again ..

1 monster can only be claimed by 1 group at 1 time, that is an archaic mechanic from the past, very few people want that in MMO's these days.

[DarthTaru]

You seem like a fairly intelligent person, yet you still don't get it.

Everyone having the chance = good

Only a small handful of people getting the chance = bad.

It doesn't matter if you are successful or die in 3 seconds its about allowing people to try and try again ..

1 monster can only be claimed by 1 group at 1 time, that is an archaic mechanic from the past, very few people want that in MMO's these days.

Mob pops.
Everyone on server has chance.

Mob dies.

Mob pops again.
Everyone on server has chance again.

What's so hard?

[Elexia]

Mob pops.
Everyone on server has chance.

Mob dies.

Mob pops again.
Everyone on server has chance again.

What's so hard?

He mostly means:

"Everyone having the chance with no competition = Good"

That's what he meant to write because you are correct...there's no difference between open and instance in terms of having a shot at something except for the exclusion of competition in the latter.

[DarthTaru]

Well, like I said in an earlier post, open world just provides so much more replay value because the fight will be different every time. To keep it FFXIV related, I can recall a lot of great times with the open world NMs in this game last year.
I remember claiming the goblin out from underneath the nose of another LS that wasn't ready for us to show up. They started trying to MPK us with monkeys and salamanders and we had to move and as a result it glitched absorb MP spell from the dead adds. So it was five of us versus the goblin NM, 25 members of another linkshell, all the mobs they can drag on us, and all with no way to regen MP. We got sword drop that night and made 15 million gil. It was, for the longest time, the most fun we had had in this game.

Not every goblin fight went that way.

But all of our Aurum Vales, Garuda's, Ifrit's, Moogles, Cutter's, etc, have all gone pretty much the same.
Go in. Do the same exact thing. Win.
/yawn.

[Jinko]

Mob pops.
Everyone on server has chance.

Mob dies.

Mob pops again.
Everyone on server has chance again.

What's so hard?

You mean every botter has a chance, the rest of us don't.

I'm sure this will incite a lecture on how so and so managed to claim an NM in XI 9/10 without the aid of a bot or some such BS though.

I don't understand why there is a need for open world content really, nothing you say will change my mind, I like the idea of big bad ass monsters roaming the world though, but like I say I would rather not have to camp monsters only to loose out to someone who is using a bot or has less latency than me or any other excuse I can come up .. because yea that's what it boils down to, pot is making excuses

He mostly means:

"Everyone having the chance with no competition = Good"

That's what he meant to write because you are correct...there's no difference between open and instance in terms of having a shot at something except for the exclusion of competition in the latter.

Didn't realise I needed a translator, but thank you again.

[DarthTaru]

You mean every botter has a chance, the rest of us don't.

The bot argument only goes so far, Jinko. In all of XI's seemingly overwhelmingly vast endgame, bots were only relevant against about 3 mobs... Aspid, in Dragon's Aery, and in Behemoth's Dominion.
That was basically it. So you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Tiamat was not dominated by bots. Cerb was not dominated by bots. The linkshell that claimed was the linkshell that could produce a capable claim party after pop (having to teleport from Whitegate, and run through 3 zones) and lock it down until the calvary could arrive. So in the interest of honesty, let's not pretend that all of endgame and all of highly sought after open world HNMs were dominated by cheaters.

Claiming that just makes me think you never actually participated in endgame and instead are just rambling off at the hip.

[TimonLoon]

The bot argument only goes so far, Jinko. In all of XI's seemingly overwhelmingly vast endgame, bots were only relevant against about 3 mobs... Aspid, in Dragon's Aery, and in Behemoth's Dominion.
That was basically it. So you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Tiamat was not dominated by bots. Cerb was not dominated by bots. The linkshell that claimed was the linkshell that could produce a capable claim party after pop (having to teleport from Whitegate, and run through 3 zones) and lock it down until the calvary could arrive. So in the interest of honesty, let's not pretend that all of endgame and all of highly sought after open world HNMs were dominated by cheaters.

Claiming that just makes me think you never actually participated in endgame and instead are just rambling off at the hip.

You didn't bot Tiamat? Cause we sure did. Also, if that's all you got from my post than there really is no hope for you.

@ Hyan Jormy didn't drop worthwhile loot at all. Vrtra was annoying to get to but usually killed within a week up until ToAU came out and there was better BRD gear. Tiamat dropped the best loot of all three and I guarantee you it was killed within an hour of spawning on my server. Often times, literally camped like Nidhogg.

[DarthTaru]

You didn't bot Tiamat? Cause we sure did. Also, if that's all you got from my post than there really is no hope for you.

@ Hyan Jormy didn't drop worthwhile loot at all. Vrtra was annoying to get to but usually killed within a week up until ToAU came out and there was better BRD gear. Tiamat dropped the best loot of all three and I guarantee you it was killed within an hour of spawning on my server. Often times, literally camped like Nidhogg.

No hope for me (/.\) Maybe we ought to take this to BG where all the super cool posters are and then we can really get it on! Better yet, let's take it to KI for old times sake! Wow. Your linkshell needed to bot Tiamat. You're a retard.

But on your super special server it was killed right away? Astonishing! Because on mine we all just stared at it and tried to negotiate the Gaiter's drop with Parley. You must of been pretty unique and pretty bad ass.

(*'-')b

[Betelgeuzah]

@ Hyan Jormy didn't drop worthwhile loot at all. Vrtra was annoying to get to but usually killed within a week up until ToAU came out and there was better BRD gear. Tiamat dropped the best loot of all three and I guarantee you it was killed within an hour of spawning on my server. Often times, literally camped like Nidhogg.

Like I said, it wasn't that way from the beginning. And like I said, competition depends on the incentive. Who told you that the roaming Ifrit Primal drops Ridills or even loot at all?