Naoki Yoshida's Japan Expo Attendance (07/06/2012)

[Rannie]

If you could not beat FFVII at lvl 70+ then you are just bad period, FF series is not even really hard, like at all, as in no challenge really outside of hidden bosses etc etc, the only thing you got right is that RPGS are meant to be grindfests yes, but they are hidden with progression, something this game LACKS!

*sighs* Yeah you don't know what i had and what I didn't have so please don't make an assumption with saying I was just bad period. Please you don't know anything about me the first rpg i've ever beaten was ffiv. I was giving examples as well thank you. I love Ffvii I even own multiple copies of it and can play it and beat it even today. My point to the person I quoted was she said that rpgs weren't grind fests when they are and you can't always beat the game just by following story progression and a few quests. Period end of story. Thank you very much have a good day.

[Mirage]

I got my ass handed to me the first time i tried to beat sephiroth, when i was level 55. I came back at 65 and had no problems with him. So yeah, I needed some grinding. The amount of grinding was however extremely short compared to all the time i spent doing stuff that progressed the story. Didn't grind for more than a couple of hours in a game that i had spent well over 50 hours at to get to the end.

I was also a dumb teenager with no real experience with RPGs back then. Basically, I sucked, replaying the game now, I would probably be able to beat it at whatever level i got to by the end of the game.

Anyway, my point isn't that everything that is to do in FF14 should be doable the second you were done with the main story, but that the main story itself should be completable with a minimal amount of grinding outside of what was required to progress the actual storyline quests.

[Rannie]

It is part of the game and part of the fun, it is part of the time sink that makes the game enjoyable majority of the time. Though I can say not all games are fun to level up in, though every FF title has been fun to me because the combat systems are spot on, including X-2.

Don't get me wrong the combat portion of X-2 wasn't bad it was a great concept... the story and how shortly it took me to be the game is what killed it plus to me it was mainly a fan service and the story wasn't that great behind it either. The dressphere system i did enjoy however.

[Rannie]

I got my ass handed to me the first time i tried to beat sephiroth, when i was level 55. I came back at 65 and had no problems with him. So yeah, I needed some grinding. The amount of grinding was however extremely short compared to all the time i spent doing stuff that progressed the story. Didn't grind for more than a couple of hours in a game that i had spent well over 50 hours at to get to the end.

I was also a dumb teenager with no real experience with RPGs back then. Basically, I sucked, replaying the game now, I would probably be able to beat it at whatever level i got to by the end of the game.

Anyway, my point isn't that everything that is to do in FF14 should be doable the second you were done with the main story, but that the main story itself should be completable with a minimal amount of grinding outside of what was required to progress the actual storyline quests.

almost the same with me but I was also missing some key items like kotr w-item most of my materia wasn't all that great nor was my summoning materia . I think as soon as i got the ultimate weapons for most of the characters i ended up screwing myself over so yeah i got ticked off and stopped playing the game for 7 years came back replayed it got everything including kotr got high enough and beat sephiroth. Quite frankly when you're not prepared well enough it doesn't mean you suck it means you have to go through and redo it. and I'll start a game over and replay it to do it correctly if i have too.

bit also the main story line quests are only at certain lvls and most of the time you can do them without having to grind over that certain lvl it even states that you can bring in others to help you with it so you're not doing it yourself. Now you don't have to do the main story line after the first one you can wait until your higher in lvl so it's easier to do but you still can do them at the levels they're required to be done at. Even if you're NOT a fighting class. One of the reasons why they put parley in is if you can't fight you can do main scenarios that way and not worry about fighting.

[Mirage]

Truth be told, you don't really need ktor, ultima weapon or omnislash to beat him. If you know what he can throw at you and have the items or spells to counteract it, you can actually deal with him pretty decently already. Sure, it won't be as fast as with the best items, but with big guard up, regen-all, esuna, a single ribbon, and the vaccine item picked up in the icicle inn, you can slowly but surely kill him even in your 50-60s.

My defeat was mostly due to not knowing what I was up against. You know what they say, knowing is half the battle.

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And not to mention, I had no concept of damage per MP ratios when I was in my early teens. Many enemy skills delivered way more damage at lower cost than most summons did. Wasting MP isn't helpful to the final battle either .

[Rannie]

Truth be told, you don't really need ktor, ultima weapon or omnislash to beat him. If you know what he can throw at you and have the items or spells to counteract it, you can actually deal with him pretty decently already. Sure, it won't be as fast as with the best items, but with big guard up, regen-all, esuna, a single ribbon, and the vaccine item picked up in the icicle inn, you can slowly but surely kill him even in your 50-60s.

My defeat was mostly due to not knowing what I was up against. You know what they say, knowing is half the battle.

right and the other half is red lasers and blue lasers rofl but yeah it was my issue with it as well I was getting my ass handed to me without know what i was up against.

[XxOstiaxX]

*sighs* Yeah you don't know what i had and what I didn't have so please don't make an assumption with saying I was just bad period. Please you don't know anything about me the first rpg i've ever beaten was ffiv. I was giving examples as well thank you. I love Ffvii I even own multiple copies of it and can play it and beat it even today. My point to the person I quoted was she said that rpgs weren't grind fests when they are and you can't always beat the game just by following story progression and a few quests. Period end of story. Thank you very much have a good day.

You where way beyond the minimun required to beat him, and you said it was because you where missing w/e, there is no item that is required to beat a final boss, that is not provided by the storyline period. Every single item that is in a sidequest or from a drop or from a hidden boss is just optional, but everything that is required to finish the game is provided to you by the game, so yeah you where bad back then lol

[yukikaze_yanagi]

and this is now a ff7 thread

[Mirage]

An improvement!

[Firon]

*sighs* Yeah you don't know what i had and what I didn't have so please don't make an assumption with saying I was just bad period. Please you don't know anything about me the first rpg i've ever beaten was ffiv. I was giving examples as well thank you. I love Ffvii I even own multiple copies of it and can play it and beat it even today. My point to the person I quoted was she said that rpgs weren't grind fests when they are and you can't always beat the game just by following story progression and a few quests. Period end of story. Thank you very much have a good day.

He is pretty much right tho you can beat every FF out except 13 with attack and cure.