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  1. #71
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    I remember when I was a Halo2 fanatic. On the extremely rare (two occasions) that my 4 man Slayer team was matched up against Japanese players we found ourselves playing against completely unexpected and unorthodox strategies compared to strategies employed by the NAs (and EUs). It was a little refreshing. I feel like NA and JP player bases are able to learn from one another on mixed servers and that, IMO, just helps the evolution of all things.

    Aegis has a very large Japanese population and I enjoy it. My friends and I hit our first lvl 50 battle class (shortly after launch) with a Japanese player and each of us (us and him) still remember it and throw each other the daily emote. Now we're not just a gimpy lvl 50s in vintage haubs but decked out in Darklight and on the cutting edge of endgame content and I think it's rather cool that, despite speaking different languages and being in what will one day be open world rival linkshells, we both have that memory. I communicate periodically with Japanese players (thanks to online translators) about things related to the game, fights, progress, etc. I have a lighthearted emote feud going on with a JP Lalafell named Shan Totto that has been going on for over a year. I don't think these things diminish my game-world; I think they add to it.

    If 2.0 is the success we hope it is and there is a population boom as a result I don't think you'll be as bothered by this.
    It's not that your desire for segregated servers are absurd. Were they segregated originally (in XI and with XIV) and it was what I was used to, I don't see myself thinking `man, we need a bunch of people who don't speak my language and have a completely different mindset and culture than I do on this server!`, but having gotten used to it (since XI) I enjoy playing on a diverse world from people all over the planet. The internet is cool (*'-')b
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    I don't think we need segregated servers, although I understand the OP's complaints.
    I think it depends on the server you're playing on, though. Ive heard servers like Aegis and Masamune have a heavy JP population!

    I do agree that sometimes JP players tend to get kinda.. JP ONLY. It can be a little irritating to see them shout for hamlets and parties and the such but in Japanese only. I personally speak Japanese as well so it's not as big of a deal for me, but alot of my friends tend to complain about this.

    The way I see it is like this: when you're in a big party, you're in a rush to communicate because you gotta pay attention to the battle itself.

    I don't know about everyone else, but autotranslate can be kind of a pain to use when you're very limited on time. It takes a while to find the right phrase if you don;t know them all off the bat. For me as a WHM, I don't have the time to do this! If I look away, people die. ;_;

    It makes sense then that players might want a specific language party. It's easier for everyone.

    Although the whole JP ONLY thing can get frustrating, alot of Japanese are really nice and are willing to play with you aslong as you explain to them that you don't speak Japanese. Alot of them know basic English anyways.

    In my opinion, I don't think servers should be segregated. In fact, I think the universal servers are such an excellent way to connect to the rest of the world, but that's just in my experience. :>
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  3. #73
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    Their "JP ONLY" basically just means "I have no friggin clue how to explain the entire <event> strategy to you." People think too much into it.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    Their "JP ONLY" basically just means "I have no friggin clue how to explain the entire <event> strategy to you." People think too much into it.
    I often understood it as 'I 'only' have 'Japanese'' in other words:They can only speak japanese and can not communicate in other languages.

    For me, they often accompany with an emote or m(V.V)m or if in person with /bow etc. So obviously no animosity. I"m a bit surprised anyone would read anything else out of that.
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  6. #76
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    As someone who can only speak english let me reiterate a previous response I had on another post...

    If I can decipher what a jp /sh is going for I try to get in while explaining I am an english speaker. 9 times out of 10 I get <english> <no thanks>

    It's like that in xi too for the most part. We have a tendency to self segregate on all sides, it's just easiest to blame na players for xenophobia cause so many are so incredibly pc other na players will bombard us with a rain of hateful msgs if we even hint at a preference for english only pts cause we are then seen as racists. Yet if others prefer pts with just others from their own countries or languages its just cause of their culture and we should be fine with it. Makes no sense to me.

    Being on a heavy jp server in both xi and xiv I get really frustrated. Granted in xiv there isnt much to do but in xi I miss out on alot due to <english> <no thanks> responses to anything outside basic exp pts. The english population on my xi server (Odin) has gotten so low idk if Im going to be able to complete anything. Ive been running with a spanish speaking ls who can speak basic english for events but cannot get a pearl from them cause of <english> only <no thanks>

    So while some ppl have had positive experiences, its not always like that for all. I would love them to ask in a survey if they should segregate servers just to see responses on all sides. Alot of the na flames I think stems from the extreme pc and japanophile populations in-game. Can't say you like running with english speakers without a slew of comments calling you a bigot or racist.

    Gets old.
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    I like running with english speakers, bro!
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    wall of text.
    Weaboo double standard
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    Gets old.
    Yep, I'm sick of it.

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    HAM THE DEFENSE
    But look, racism is cute if you add music notes.
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    No double standard. I have no issues joining pt or inviting other language speakers into my pts. My main frustration is missing out on alot myself due to other not wanting english speakers.

    My point was just cause someone prefers to pt with english only speakers it does not make them racists or bigots, esp if you do not consider other ppl racists or bigots for the same thing just cause they are non-na players.
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