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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Not once I said the next best thing, I said TERA will do well, and SWTOR, and oh look they have lol
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    Yeah they're doing well, even the President publicly admitting that Tera didn't do too hot in it's own country, you can't ignore that a game faltering in it's own country. It's doing very poorly in Korea and Japan. NA release is benefiting from "it's a new MMO here!"

    SWTOR is deemed medicore and they have to go F2P because it lost momentum and they're trying to win people back.

    Your idea of success seems to be purely based on subscriber numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
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    Yeah they're doing well, even the President publicly admitting that Tera didn't do too hot in it's own country, you can't ignore that a game faltering in it's own country. It's doing very poorly in Korea and Japan. NA release is benefiting from "it's a new MMO here!"

    SWTOR is deemed medicore and they have to go F2P because it lost momentum and they're trying to win people back.

    Your idea of success seems to be purely based on subscriber numbers.
    TERA is currently failing in EU too (Because FROGSTER is a very incompetent publisher) and KR just finished merging their servers down from 15 to 3 yesterday, NATERA's producer is thinking of taking EUTERA's subscribers and allowing them to come into their servers as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
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    Yeah they're doing well, even the President publicly admitting that Tera didn't do too hot in it's own country, you can't ignore that a game faltering in it's own country. It's doing very poorly in Korea and Japan. NA release is benefiting from "it's a new MMO here!"

    SWTOR is deemed medicore and they have to go F2P because it lost momentum and they're trying to win people back.

    Your idea of success seems to be purely based on subscriber numbers.
    And that is a bad idea to determine success? Its how I determine, me personally.

    I dont know why you're bringing out that TERA admits it isnt good in its own country, i mean its not like SE didn't do the same................
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    And that is a bad idea to determine success? Its how I determine, me personally.

    I dont know why you're bringing out that TERA admits it isnt good in its own country, i mean its not like SE didn't do the same................
    Yes it's bad/stupid to determine success on subscription #s... (An MMO can have over 1 billion subs, but if the publisher/host of the game is poorly managing it, then it can shut down, regardless of how many subscribers there are.)

    I'd hate to see how you'd run an mmo.

    "Oh I have over 99,999,999 subs, it's doing fine! Despite the angry consumers and the fact that I didn't fix any bugs or glitches and people are being overcharged for their subs and my shareholders are breathing down my neck."
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere View Post
    Yes it's bad/stupid to determine success on subscription #s... (An MMO can have over 1 billion subs, but if the publisher/host of the game is poorly managing it, then it can shut down, regardless of how many subscribers there are.)

    I'd hate to see how you'd run an mmo.

    "Oh I have over 99,999,999 subs, it's doing fine! Despite the angry consumers and the fact that I didn't fix any bugs or glitches and people are being overcharged for their subs and my shareholders are breathing down my neck."
    Shutting down is not my concern, swtor, xiv, tera could all be shutdown, but havent, even dispite everyone including themself saying its a failure.

    People playing the game, idk what it is with me but when I play to MMO i like to know there are hundreds of thousands of people also playing too, and I can play with tons of different people every day and know online everyone is talking about it, you can get this with swtor(if they merge servers already), you can get this with tera, but not xiv because its such a small amount of people playing.

    So a game successful to me, is a game that has lots of people playing, not a few.

    The thing is, a lot of people get grumpy cuse they see me in a negative tone here about the game, and think I buttrub the other games, when in reality I am also on their forums stating things i dont like, ya know things the developers ask for, but the community cant handle it. But I still do it because the devs ask for it, i do it for them XD
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    NA site is up.. nothing new though.. just thought I throw that out there ^.^
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    The site was as I expected, so I can't say I'm disappointed, but why they waited a month to publish it is anyone's guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    NA site is up.. nothing new though.. just thought I throw that out there ^.^
    Thanks for the update Starlord.

    HEY GUYS THE SITE IS UP!!
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    website design is disorganized... i think not a good idea to open this new one.
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    Let's just hope SE adds the new teaser trailer soon! I can't wait
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