Hamlet Seal Drop Rate

[Dawiichan]

unfortunately, wether or not you already have an item doesnt change its drp rate....

but thats irrelevent i guess, and yes we usualy always see 1 person get an item every drop when we do ifrit

How does it not change the drop rate? The drop rate of a specific weapon is a 1/7 of what the drop rate for a random weapon to drop. If one that drops becomes obsolete then yes, hamlet definitely does have better drop rate unless you decide to get past the 3 seal mark for some reason? Also, getting 1 drop per run, you must have had quite the lucky groups. I'd say 2 every 3 sounds about right, on good days.

[TheVedis]

How does it not change the drop rate? The drop rate of a specific weapon is a 1/7 of what the drop rate for a random weapon to drop. If one that drops becomes obsolete then yes, hamlet definitely does have better drop rate unless you decide to get past the 3 seal mark for some reason? Also, getting 1 drop per run, you must have had quite the lucky groups. I'd say 2 every 3 sounds about right, on good days.

if gear drops every time, its a 100% drop rate

if gear drops half the time, its 50% drop rate

just because something drops that you dont want, doesnt mean it doesnt count as a drop, thats what im saying, and thats a very very simple thing to understand

[Dawiichan]

if gear drops every time, its a 100% drop rate

if gear drops half the time, its 50% drop rate

just because something drops that you dont want, doesnt mean it doesnt count as a drop, thats what im saying, and thats a very very simple thing to understand

Simple depending on what you want. First of all, believing that ifrit drops at least 1 weapon per run is a fantasy. I'm also not saying that it doesn't count as a drop, but that it is useless to you unless you got what you are aiming for. In Hamlet, the drop most people want are seals. However there is only 1 seal type per hamlet, so you are only going for 1 item type.

There's a difference between getting something you want or getting a drop of something you didn't want. Seals affect all weapons, ifrit weapons have a 1/7 chance of giving you what you want. Sure getting a weapon in ifrit wasn't too bad, but my first weapon was a cnj staff, boy was I happy. /end sarcasm.

So yes, you could say ifrit has a better drop rate of giving you something, but I could say the same thing with hamlet since there's a 100% chance drop of the hats that are decent at most. So if you're aiming for just a drop, hamlet already has a better chance. If you're aiming for something you do want, I'd say hamlet has at least the same chance.

I've spent less time doing hamlet than I did doing ifrit, and I've already gotten more seals than weapons. Considering that this will affect all relic weapons, I'd say with the importance of it, the drop rate isn't bad at all if you have an organized system.

[HiirNoivl]

if gear drops every time, its a 100% drop rate

if gear drops half the time, its 50% drop rate

just because something drops that you dont want, doesnt mean it doesnt count as a drop, thats what im saying, and thats a very very simple thing to understand

I don't disagree but the thread title is Hamlet Seal drop rate. So it's drop rate for seal only.

[TheVedis]

I don't disagree but the thread title is Hamlet Seal drop rate. So it's drop rate for seal only.

yes, which is around 30-50% at 60k+ runs, which isnt too too bad considering

and even moreso since weve confirmed you DO NOT need to do the hamlet end of things multiple times if you are going for multiple relics

[HiirNoivl]

yes, which is around 30-50% at 60k+ runs, which isnt too too bad considering

and even moreso since weve confirmed you DO NOT need to do the hamlet end of things multiple times if you are going for multiple relics

Yeah I know but you were talking about gear drops and stuff. No one's talking about that

[TheVedis]

Yeah I know but you were talking about gear drops and stuff. No one's talking about that

people were comparing the drop rate of seals to the drop rate of "anything that drops from instance X" so yes, it was pretty relevent to what i was talking about though

you cant just say "only seals count here but any drop counts there" and so on

[HoolieWho]

yes, which is around 30-50% at 60k+ runs, which isnt too too bad considering

At 40% drop rate, that's over 100 hours of Hamlet Defense to get seals for a full party. That is way too much for something as boring as Hamlet Defense.

[TheVedis]

At 40% drop rate, that's over 100 hours of Hamlet Defense to get seals for a full party. That is way too much for something as boring as Hamlet Defense.

compared to the time you spend in any single endgame dungeon at endgame is this really any different?

nature of the beast my friend, nature of the beast

[HoolieWho]

compared to the time you spend in any single endgame dungeon at endgame is this really any different?

nature of the beast my friend, nature of the beast

There are boring beasts and there are fun beasts. Different beasts my friend.