Tachi's Guide to Paladin (post 1.22b)

[MoarLegion]

A point me and some friends are testing right now. Sentinel on WAR and on PLD don't effect enmity values of abilities.

How we tested:

We used a 3rd party member to grab aggroing(that is, just walked next to the mob) mobs to remove any potential bonus aggro for pulling. All tests were conducted with 0 +enmity gear. Target was Antling Diggers outside of Halatali(R43-46)

Baseline Test:2 WARs, both using Flash. No Sentinel.
WAR1(Me) used Flash after the mob was in range. Hate:WAR1
WAR2(Arioch) used Flash after. Hate: WAR1
WAR2 does 1 point of damage. Hate: WAR2

Interestingly enough, this shows that the mob WILL NOT change targets unless you go above the current enmity. Simplified, if WAR1 has 1000 Enmity, WAR2 must generate 1001 enmity for the mob to target WAR2.

Test #2, 2 WARS, 1 using Sentinel.
WAR1 used Sentinel before the mob was pulled.(To eliminate enmity gained from buffs)
WAR2 used Flash on the mob. Hate: WAR2
WAR1 used Flash w/Sentinel Active, hate did not transfer.
Conclusion: Sentinel as a WAR does not impact enmity gained by abilities.

Baseline 2: 1 WAR, 1 PLD.
Mob is Pulled by a pt member.
WAR uses Flash on a mob, PLD uses Flash after. Hate: WAR
PLD deals 1 point of damage after Flash. Hate: PLD
Conclusion: Hate values of Flash are the same regardless of Job, Flash's Blind Debuff does not accrue additional enmity.

Test 2: 1 WAR, 1 PLD, PLD uses Sentinel.
PLD uses Sentinel before the mob was pulled.(To prevent enmity gained from buffing.
WAR1 uses Flash when the mob is in range. Hate: WAR
PLD w/Sentinel active uses Flash. Hate: WAR
After Sentinel expires, PLD deals 1 point of damage. Hate:PLD
Conclusion: Sentinel does not affect enmity generated by abilities as a PLD.

Some other interesting things we found out.
Divine Veil: Has a high base enmity value.
Divine Regen: Hate generated by the regen actually goes to the person that CASTED the cure to proc the effect, not the PLD. I.E. WHM casts cure on PLD, divine regen procs on the 3rd party member. The hate from regen tics went towards the WHM's enmity instead of the PLD.

[GreyJorildyn]

Enmity values are common knowledge based on Kaeko's testing.

One thing I want to highlight and which is mentioned in the OP is accuracy is so very important. You cannot afford to miss Spirits Within when it's up. As a result I've started full-timing Electrum Rings +1 almost exclusively, just as WAR tanks do.

[Molly_Millions]

as a WAR tank I only equip a single electrum ring +1 and have a hit rate of 97%. PLD misses less than WAR, so one electrum ring +1 should be plenty if you're also wearing something like the Explorer's Choker or something else with ACC.

[Junktap]

This guide is sexual, keep up the good work!

[Darkillumina]

I've personally started using a heavy hp set up on my PLD. I'm finding that the boost in spirits within damage trumps the other stats. Having over 4k HP makes spirits do a nice chunk of damage.

Just some food for thought.

[Molly_Millions]

If you ignore the abilities divine veil and outmanuver and aegis boon then you can simply add up the block and block rate and the higher total will have the most dmg mitigation over time. BUT when you add in the ability to block 100% of attacks 1/3'rd of the time combined with aegis boon then the scale tips in favor of kite/tower type shields. I say vintage kite because of the ability to stack HP on it or the enmity from thurmeons.

Vintage Kite Shield +1 is even better with +5 MND. To be honest, I'd get one of those and toss a stonewall or lifethirst IV on it and call it a day.

[Sasagawa]

Def + works well for coincounters 100T swing only does 2300 with a block sometimes less .

I am intrigued about the shield block results, I found it did no noticible difference when comparing a block of 110 with that of 132

Block rate i agree is a must for trash mobs

But i still think a block rate is of more use generally as the ability to block more hits is better than the ability to only block massive hits.

all though there also exceptions such as coin counter

Also divine V can mitigate 100t swing given u have a goo shield

Aegis can

And then sentinel means you never have to worry about 100t swing

Also I tend to save at least provoke for animal instinct

Over all very interesting read.

[Sasagawa]

Guys if you actually have a look at the formula and understand the ratios

its not saying for every 3 vit you get 2 defence

its saying that for every 3 vit you get a similar return from 2 defence at + dlvl

ITs also worth noting that the raw data was taken using a base defence of 510 and varying the Vit

Also as the formula states

Physical Damage Taken = [ "Damage Taken at 0VIT/0DEF" ] - [dLVL modifier] * { [ DEF ] + 0.67 [ VIT ] }

Defence and Vit are related having lots of one and none of other will provide a lower number and vice versur.

You should aim to raise Vit as much as possible but without sacrificing the gains you can put on defense.

an example would be

Have a Vit body
A DEF shield
VIt legs
HP everywhere else

Idea being with the addition of VIT + DEF you raise the damage reduction modifier.

using this as an example and the 2-3 ratio everyone knows about

we have potenitally

40 vit on legs
80 vit on body

80 def on shield
80 def on body

therefore I would suggest the ideal quadruple meld would be

+40 vit on legs (4 tier IVs)
+80 def on shield (4Tier IVs)

+60 vit on body (3 tier IVs)
+20 def on body (1 tier IV)

Not saying that this is actually possible but this would give you the largest gains rather than stacking one stat

also dont forget about the vit cap at that point you would stack more defence.

[Tango]

No your reading the formula wrong: Physical Damage Taken = [ "Damage Taken at 0VIT/0DEF" ] - [dLVL modifier] * { [ DEF ] + 0.67 [ VIT ] }

says in any situation from a pure physical dmg taken perspective (ignoring the HP gain from VIT and the magic dmg reduction from VIT AND the shield dmg reduction from VIT... lol u get the point here)

if you have 2 pieces of gear you take the higher of the 2, DEF or VIT(.67)

ex:
when shopping materia with this formula in mind an 18 VIT materia blocks the same as a 12 DEF materia.

stacking 1 or the other doesn't change the formula they do not rely on each other at all they are purely seperate parts of the formula.

[Tango]

Vintage Kite Shield +1 is even better with +5 MND. To be honest, I'd get one of those and toss a stonewall or lifethirst IV on it and call it a day.

I personally have a double 50hp vintage kite +1, I broke about 20 hq shields going after a tripple HP in the 160-180 range but oh well.