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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeauge View Post
    A friend and I were discussing this... Unfortunately BRD has really seemed to get the shaft with the Relic enhancement. The bow is great otherwise, just Increased Song Duration is kind of lame...and it will encourage the player base to further put BRD down into a slot where we only play support.

    BRD, before the most recent hotfix, could do pretty great dps with the flow of damage constantly up. Now it seems a little silly. I was thinking instead of having Increased Song Duration we also had Enhanced Barrage or Enhanced Quick Nock, even an Enhanced Rain of Death. I feel like Increased Song Duration could go on another piece of equipment or even become a spell like Sacred Prism. The enhancement on our weapon isn't nearly as strong as the others, so it's a bit disappointing.
    I see this as the opposite. For one the DD stats are quite powerful and the extended song duration removes them further from a support role, cuz it just means they will be singing less and shooting more.
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    Last edited by Deltara; 06-29-2012 at 08:38 AM.

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    I don't think anyone's mentioned that the increased song duration utilized with Battle voice and AF enhancements makes for a powerful buff.
    higher DPS than Garuda's spine is a plus, but unlike Garuda's spine it retains it DMG which benefits your light shot which is the majority of a bards damage overall.

    Only downside to this bow is that the Accuracy is not really needed, the attack boost is lacklustre and you cannot light shot in-between weapon skills.

    And let's be honest, bard will never pull hate lol
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    Last edited by Leoheart; 06-28-2012 at 10:35 PM.

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    I think that the bow is actually the best relic, not only can you make a BV song last for a full extra minute with the enhance (4 mins total), but it saves you time on recasting songs so you can keep a smoother rotation. Sure, I would have liked some more attack bonuses or something, but looking at all the other weapons and how lackluster they are, I can't complain at all with bow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leoheart View Post
    you cannot light shot in-between weapon skills.
    This is not true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leoheart View Post
    And let's be honest, bard will never pull hate
    On many boss fights, with the exception with Chimera and others that are resistant to piercing damage, on my Bard I com close to pulling hate each battle. I'm very glad the relic will give me more minus enmity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmandaHuggenkiss View Post
    This is not true.
    Care to elaborate on this? If you're waiting to Light shot in-between combo's on a bow of 4.1s Delay then it perpetuates a loss of overall damage due to waiting on your cool downs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leoheart View Post
    Care to elaborate on this? If you're waiting to Light shot in-between combo's on a bow of 4.1s Delay then it perpetuates a loss of overall damage due to waiting on your cool downs.
    If you use Garuda's Spine the delay is short enough to weave LS/WS together without time loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat View Post
    If you use Garuda's Spine the delay is short enough to weave LS/WS together without time loss.
    ~~~this~~~
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    Although with the boost to base dmg., even though relic's delay is longer it should be better overall.
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    I'm talking about Artemis bow, not Garuda's spine. lol :x

    edit: Missed your last comment there, I'm sure someone will tell us as/when they get their bow
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    I'm with Leohart on this one. The delay on Garuda's Spine is fine for WS>LS>WS>LS>WS>LS, but on the Artemis Bow I can't help but think you'd actually decrease your overall DPS by waiting for LS after each WS.

    Even with Garuda's spine you waste about a second each time you wait for light shot between WS's but I'm pretty sure your DPS comes out better overall compared to straight combos followed by a few light shots to build tp again.

    Curious if anyone has parsed the difference between a WS>LS>WS cycle versus full combo > TP build > full combo cycle on bows with higher delays.
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