Yoshida-san: Please Give Us a BETTER System for Relics and Future 2.0 Challenges!

[Reinheart]

My Guess for what devs are trying to do:

- Hardcore gamers will try for the 5 chest 17min run for the items

- Semi Hardcore gamers will keep on trying the 25min TA and hope they get enough items

Casual players who thought they were going to get AF weapons and not Relic weapons either gave up totally or will have to wait till level cap increase or some action/dungeon adjustments in the future where the runs can be much much easier to clear under 17min with 5 chest, kind of like running through Totorak. They will eventually get the AF weapons but almost never at same speed as those Hardcore/Semi hardcore people.

Kind of goes back to how YoshiP wanted it to be where hardcore players has these weapons and casual players can look at them and go "Oh wow, I want that weapon some day!" and once they get the hardcore has newer weapons to keep the game going.

Which is fine in all, just again wished they didn't do this for the first version of the AF weapon at least.
1st version AF weapon - looks pretty (less details than final one) and crappy stats - players will be able to take pics and all that just like how SE showed off jobs screen shots all with these weapons. Most with this will eventually store the weapons in storage and start using regular weapons with materia melded on.

2nd version AF weapon - looks better, awesome stats for now, much much harder to make - as newer weapons come out it gets outdated or they will add 3rd version of the AF weapon with more.... then 4th... or something like that.

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Anyways did any group get 5chest under 17min yet?

[Kiara]

My Guess for what devs are trying to do:

- Hardcore gamers will try for the 5 chest 17min run for the items

- Semi Hardcore gamers will keep on trying the 25min TA and hope they get enough items

Casual players who thought they were going to get AF weapons and not Relic weapons either gave up totally or will have to wait till level cap increase or some action/dungeon adjustments in the future where the runs can be much much easier to clear under 17min with 5 chest, kind of like running through Totorak. They will eventually get the AF weapons but almost never at same speed as those Hardcore/Semi hardcore people.

Hi Reinheart,

Yah, if this new method is true (about Under 17 Minutes SR5C), you would've hoped that the developers balanced it out slightly better than essentially "100%" or "0%" (extremes): 100% Drop for Under 17 minutes, to anything over that (even on a standard Speed Run 5C (under 25 minutes) being essentially 0%, as seen from Athalia's runs posted earlier:

We're around 100 runs finished now with 800 combined individual chests and I was the only person to get a Mythril. Everyone else has played 6 days for many hours each day and received nothing. We've tried doing things to improve drop rate but nothing seems to work.

As it stands for our group:

Me 1/100 = 1%
Everyone else 0/100 = 0%
Entire PT 1/800 = 0.125% drop rate

It's sadly a lazy way to increase challenge in an MMO, but it's certainly an easy way to do it for implementation without generating new assets or thought or design.