Yoshida-san: Please Give Us a BETTER System for Relics and Future 2.0 Challenges!

[Zdenka]

I see lots of DoW/DoM groups exiting dead all the time; I imagine it must be more difficult than just the DoL/DoH method. So it might be easier to just do the same thing as always even against higher level mobs.

Problem I have with hamlets for this is that its boring; dreadfully so. Can't push yourself to do more DPS or beat LS members in a MM fight etc. Its turn in red, turn in red, turn in red... kite boss, kite boss, kite boss... for 20-25m straight.

Rewards are sorta lame besides for pants which have a 1% drop rate it seems, just like DL body. We'll do them but I just wanna pound my head on a wall.

At least even if MM item is uber low drop rate at least its more entertaining than hamlets D:

[TheVedis]

I see lots of DoW/DoM groups exiting dead all the time; I imagine it must be more difficult than just the DoL/DoH method. So it might be easier to just do the same thing as always even against higher level mobs.

Problem I have with hamlets for this is that its boring; dreadfully so. Can't push yourself to do more DPS or beat LS members in a MM fight etc. Its turn in red, turn in red, turn in red... kite boss, kite boss, kite boss... for 20-25m straight.

Rewards are sorta lame besides for pants which have a 1% drop rate it seems, just like DL body. We'll do them but I just wanna pound my head on a wall.

At least even if MM item is uber low drop rate at least its more entertaining than hamlets D:

itl get mixed up a bit more when you get higher

youll still want a crafter doing the attack buff
gatherer on debuff

but you wont have to kite....you can already get 40k without kiting, so it stands to reason with a higher multiplier that 40k becomes 60k, so you wont need a 20-25 minute fight, you can do it in 12-13 instead. and perhaps even add more dds to the mix in general

itl be a wait and see thing on how it all works out, we actualy need the higher rank in first, but ive been thinking alot about what can differ when it happens to still pull off the score