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  1. #21
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamikazeMan View Post
    They should add some VERY rare items for Alchemist and Cook to make. Maybe items that can give you a temporary 40% boost in exp, 25% boost in HP, etc. Fisherman can provide the ingredients for these recipes.
    There's a problem with these. People won't use them, especially if they require the same amount of effort as the class only items. When consumables are cheap, like most food, people have no issue with using them. However, if we're going to have these items be fairly powerful, they also need to be fairly rare. The rarer it is, the more expensive (either in time to get, or just plain gil cost) it will be. The more expensive it is, the less likely someone will actually USE it, even in a dire situation.

    In short, it becomes Too Awesome to Use. Nobody's going to want to use a 100k consumable on every boss fight they do. So of course they'll save it until that one time they REALLY need it... of course, by the time such a realization is made, it's usually when the party is wiping and it'd be too late to use it anyway.
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  2. #22
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    Rauban Daz
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    Omega
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    Fisher Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    There's a problem with these. People won't use them, especially if they require the same amount of effort as the class only items. When consumables are cheap, like most food, people have no issue with using them. However, if we're going to have these items be fairly powerful, they also need to be fairly rare. The rarer it is, the more expensive (either in time to get, or just plain gil cost) it will be. The more expensive it is, the less likely someone will actually USE it, even in a dire situation.

    In short, it becomes Too Awesome to Use. Nobody's going to want to use a 100k consumable on every boss fight they do. So of course they'll save it until that one time they REALLY need it... of course, by the time such a realization is made, it's usually when the party is wiping and it'd be too late to use it anyway.
    True a Too Awsome to Use item wont help much cuz nobody will use it,but having a more variety of fishes = more Consumables but still will break an honest fisherman back if it was from Fishing waters.
    what would be good is:
    1-make the good Consumables ingredients from Fishing schools+Spear fishing. (example:Hyper Potion of Mind)
    2-make the Normal Consumables ingredients from Fishing waters.(example:Mega+Hi Potion of Vitality)
    3-Put up some Ranking system npc same as "Hamlet ranking" but showing largest fish caught instead of score.
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  3. #23
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    Momoko Tomoko
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 100
    I want legendary fishes, but it seems like trying to catch them will be another RNG unless there is some part of the quest in getting them that requires skill. Maybe a special mini-game or fishing spots that are hard to get to without dodging a bunch of mobs.

    I also want something that I can catch, stuff, and mount on my player house wall, or maybe trade in a rare fish for a cool feather for some hat.
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  4. #24
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    Llen Coram
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    Sargatanas
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    Fisher Lv 100
    You know, there's really nothing stopping the devs from giving us legendary fish, and then crafters being able to use the scales/teeth/whatever of the fish as new armour/weapon materials.

    It's Final Fantasy after all. Even the impossible is possible sometimes.
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  5. #25
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    Senra Yin
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    Ultros
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    Catch my fish so I can eat!
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    Alec Temet
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    Perhaps a day will come, on the distant horizon of time, when Fishermen the world over can find a place of sanctuary. A place that they can call their own, to fish as they will, when they will, for as long as they will. A Fisherman's Horizon, as it were.
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    Last edited by Hulan; 06-17-2012 at 11:14 AM. Reason: Miss-typed my intended pun, which kind of defeated the purpose

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    Llen Coram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulan View Post
    Perhaps a day will come, when Fishermen the world over can find a place of sanctuary. A place that they can call their own, to fish as they will, when they will, for as long as they will. A Fisherman Island, as it were.
    Nuts to your island, I want my own little boat. Any fisher worth his rod knows that we're a fiercely jealous bunch. I don't want to share my fishing spot with nobody!

    You're welcome to join me though .
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  8. #28
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    Len Orlan
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    Fishing has got to be the absolute least lucrative of the three Disciples of Land.

    In a time when crystals & shards still mattered, you could make some decent profit off of certain fish, but that time has long since passed and fishing has yet to adapt any changes.

    Don't worry, though, I have a feeling the day will come when Fishing will reign supreme.
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  9. #29
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    Punainen Drak
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    Sargatanas
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    Useful materials should be made from fish. Fish glue, scales, bones, oil, etc. Even if Alchemists need to get the materials from them, fishing would be aided if the materials they gathered had more use. Also would be nice, that once housing comes out, we can make fish tanks (I effing love fish tanks) to put some of the fishies in.

    Fish in real life is turned to fertilizer. So maybe we can make fertilizer for gardening? And maybe CHOCOBOS should eat fish, and they will be useful in chocobo raising.
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  10. #30
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    N'aivir Alexaire
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Fisher pretty much sucks. What do you expect from the easiest class to bot to 50? Lol.
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