Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
Here's where the illusion of spped comes in. It's not an overly fast process. People just assume you can grind it non stop for a few days. Only takes 3 days to get your seals maybe it does if you play 16 hours a day.... and I know a few people who have been trying.

But yes everything in this game should be accessible to everyone. and the thing is if you were to make the hamlet seals misers mythrill etc a 100% drop it would be a grind sure. still tedious. but if with that 100% drop you needed 50 seals instead of 3. Even the most casual player could come home from work and do a single hamlet/av/cc run in his 1 hour of game time and be guaranteed to make a little progress. At that rate of pace it could take him 2 months to get the 50 seals he needs from one of the hamlets maybe 6 months to get the seals from all 3. But at least he's guaranteed to make a little progress each time.

Simply make a small change to the weapon part and trade in a weapon and the 2 materia unmelded. Still need the same 3 items but the randomness element is removed. What you end up with is a process where players decide. not the random system. In the example a player above may think 6 months to get my seals "ouch" and not bother. But at least any player who decides yeah I can do that knows he has to do the exact same thing as everyone else and not see himself grind something hundreds of times trying to get the item he needs and seeing the people around him be get it after 10.

If they want to ensure its a long process they need to put lock outs on to stop people grinding the crap out of it all 24/7 in a week. should be a static amount of work for everyone involved so you know that if you see someone with the same axe/staff that you have they put in as much hard work as you to get it and they didn't just luck out.
This post hits the nail on the head.

My friend is extremely lucky with hamlet seals, he's completed his before many of us have even gotten 2. (Same number of runs, mind you)
He also double melded his weapon on first try. It only took him 10 runs in AV to get his Mithril Ore, And 7 in CC to get his items.


Me on the other hand, have done literally 5 times the hamlets and still dont have 5 seals, because of crappy lucky. I've attempted to double meld 7 weapons. I will go 3/80 and then 3/58 on the AV/CC items.


There should never be a system in which if you get luck you can complete in a ridiculously fast amount of time, and if you get unlucky... never complete at all.

In the top instance, you could realistically complete the relic in a week.

While the bottom instance, you can't even fit that ALL in before 2.0

It should be a solid 2months of consistent content (2-3 hours a day). That's why people are complaining it and saying FFXI's system was better. The amount of work you put into getting the currencies was the same no matter who you were.