Physical/regional servers FINALLY confirmed ??! (Y)

[Sasagawa]

Thanks for the replies Dragon and Jinko

We wen slightly of topic there but I do see your point ! (I tend to disagree about strategy - twitch game mechanics, but thats an entirely different argument).

THe strategy was there and you had to be completely on the ball for FFXI I dont know what fights you did while watching TV possibly mainly parties and grind but seriously try doing something like maat or sea while watching TV.

I do get your point tho and all games do have hard areas such as heroic content in WOW my only point is FFXI was generally hard all around and was widely considered one of the hardest mmos to play as a whole. WOW however is relatively easier as a whole and in turn has brough alot more casual insta gratification players in to the MMO world just browse some of these forums, some of the suggestions are ludicrous. this is an FF game after all and I want them to stick with the ethos that all FFs have of being slightly different but more and more people only know WOW or similar clones and want those emulating. So far so good with the changes but the lack of turtle tank content and more twitch game mechanics, focus on speed and DD mean my fav job PLD is essentially not "preferred" in most circumstances.

Anyways back on topic

Regional servers will help a lot in twitch game mechanics but I really hope they implement some decent turtle fights that require long concentration and timing of WS.

[Dragonheart]

Thanks for the replies Dragon and Jinko

We wen slightly of topic there but I do see your point ! (I tend to disagree about strategy - twitch game mechanics, but thats an entirely different argument).

THe strategy was there and you had to be completely on the ball for FFXI I dont know what fights you did while watching TV possibly mainly parties and grind but seriously try doing something like maat or sea while watching TV.

I do get your point tho and all games do have hard areas such as heroic content in WOW my only point is FFXI was generally hard all around and was widely considered one of the hardest mmos to play as a whole. WOW however is relatively easier as a whole and in turn has brough alot more casual insta gratification players in to the MMO world just browse some of these forums, some of the suggestions are ludicrous. this is an FF game after all and I want them to stick with the ethos that all FFs have of being slightly different but more and more people only know WOW or similar clones and want those emulating. So far so good with the changes but the lack of turtle tank content and more twitch game mechanics, focus on speed and DD mean my fav job PLD is essentially not "preferred" in most circumstances.

Anyways back on topic

Regional servers will help a lot in twitch game mechanics but I really hope they implement some decent turtle fights that require long concentration and timing of WS.

I understand your point of view too. Btw the TV was just an example to show how much the old game was slow and not skillfull (just some example kiting kb, tanking jol, tanking ouryu, and those are just some example :P )

I know that many likes fight xi style where everyone is almost standing and only the ws/mb timing was required..

But in 2012 both hardcore and casual ppl (at least the majority) are used in fast encounter that in normal mode are pretty easy (for casual, even if there were some normal that were hard too lol) , and hardmodes/nightmare designed for hardcore (insane fight that in majority of wow fight as example, not only the boss hit you MUCH harder, but the whole battle strategy/mechanic changes completely from normal! )

And to do this, imho, regional servers are really needed. (maybe you could do a normal mode with 300ish latency, but not hardmodes, and as hardcore i want hardmodes of course :P )

And lastly i'm pretty sure if they decide to implement them (it's still not confirmed remember! ) it will be a player choice 100% ..

So i don't see where is the problem

[Yumi_Hibiki]

Stop denying stuff for silly reasons, even when the reasons totally go against you lol.

nope i wont stop opposing silly stuff for valid reasons sorry^~^

and if the lag is hardly noticeable in 2.0 it not only would people stop from wandering off to that regional servers

it would make regional servers a gigantic waste of money and effort: server equipment, rented space for the server farm, maintenance personal, development personal on location and so on...

pretty excessive for some choice

[Dragonheart]

nope i wont stop opposing silly stuff for valid reasons sorry^~^

and if the lag is hardly noticeable in 2.0 it not only would people stop from wandering off to that regional servers

it would make regional servers a gigantic waste of money and effort: server equipment, rented space for the server farm, maintenance personal, development personal on location and so on...

pretty excessive for some choice

lol and do you think about money waste?? every big software house has regional servers (EA with SW, Blizzard WoW, Trion with Rift, and those are just some without mentioning f2p ) ... Why with a such important project like this (that already wasted a lot of money) can't we have STANDARD features like local servers, expecially if international servers will continue running ?

[Yumi_Hibiki]

lol and do you think about money waste?? every big software house has regional servers (EA with SW, Blizzard WoW, Trion with Rift, and those are just some without mentioning f2p ) ... Why with a such important project like this (that already wasted a lot of money) can't we have STANDARD features like local servers, expecially if international servers will continue running ?

now tell me how many of those have a regional server in japan? ^~^
not one of them?
that's what i thought

but im not here to argue, my vote is and will remain a big NO for regional servers and i already stated more than one reason.

[Dragonheart]

now tell me how many of those have a regional server in japan? ^~^
not one of them?
that's what i thought

but im not here to argue, my vote is and will remain a big NO for regional servers and i already stated more than one reason.

Well you didnt answer mine reply (and btw thinking at the whole world econimically i think it's a bit more important than just 1 nation) .

Why not welcome local servers for who wants them if international ones for ppl like you will still exist? Bah.

[Risae]

now tell me how many of those have a regional server in japan? ^~^
not one of them?
that's what i thought

but im not here to argue, my vote is and will remain a big NO for regional servers and i already stated more than one reason.

So you're saying that EVERYBODY should at least have +300ms?
Cool, can't wait to not get invited into parties because i'm european and die everytime because i was "standing in the fire".

[Dragonheart]

ps, if there aren't japanese server (maybe even wow client in JP) it's because jp audience DON'T LIKES western MMO, they're kinda nationalist you know (look xbox360 in jp ).

Oh and if you talk about money waste, yes it will be a waste of money (economically talking) translating a game and putting a local server just for one region, in this case JP (and they will not like them anyway) .

And i'm not complaining because i don't have FFXIV client in italian , or a local server in italy, i complain because there isnt a server at least in the WHOLE EUROPE. (And america for US players ofcourse.)

[Yumi_Hibiki]

So you're saying that EVERYBODY should at least have +300ms?
Cool, can't wait to not get invited into parties because i'm european and die everytime because i was "standing in the fire".

do i really have to write that im from europe again?
ok... i am from AUSTRIA and i can dodge ifrits every move without a problem.

and im by far not the greatest player ever, if i can so can you...

[Dragonheart]

do i really have to write that im from europe again?
ok... i am from AUSTRIA and i can dodge ifrits every move without a problem.

"standing in the fire" was just an example i suppose, expecially if 2.0 will have more ifrit style fight (already confirmed btw).