The whole game is a bug

[ganfalfxviv]

Okay, i will try to keep it short since its too much work .
System is ok but its not rly enough, i know most game are better compatible and require less power but thats simply the crappy base the old team left and the new team got to work with. The thing with gathering is not for everyone but i for my part like even if its abit slow.

It's not enough? Let me quote to you the system reqs that SE published with the game. My system is well above those reqs.

CPU: Athlon X2 2.0 GHz. Actual: Athlon II X3 3.3 GHz, which is basically twice as fast.
RAM: 2GB. Actual: 8GB, which is 4 times as much.
Video card: Radeon HD 2900 with 512 MB VRAM. Actual: Radeon HD 7700 with 1GB VRAM. That's twice the VRAM, and a much faster GPU.

I don't see how you can possibly say "It's ok but not really enough." It's well over the reqs. "Enough" means "meet the requirements", or at least that's what it should mean. And, I know that the reqs are just the bare minimum. But I'm not at the reqs in any single component, I'm at least twice as good as the reqs. The game should therefore run without problem. It should not be an issue. It shouldn't crash. I shouldn't have disappearing NPCs.

I don't know all that much about computer programming, but I am very skeptical when you tell me that something as simple as alt-tab is involved with deep coding in the game--that the problem can't be easily handled without a complete overhaul of the code. That seems like just an excuse.

And, yes, I am willing to put effort into a game. That's part of what makes a game fun. But it shouldn't be work. It should be entertaining. It should be fun. I should be wanting to put effort into it, not feeling like I'm compelled to put effort in where I don't really want to.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

It's not enough? Let me quote to you the system reqs that SE published with the game. My system is well above those reqs.

CPU: Athlon X2 2.0 GHz. Actual: Athlon II X3 3.3 GHz, which is basically twice as fast.
RAM: 2GB. Actual: 8GB, which is 4 times as much.
Video card: Radeon HD 2900 with 512 MB VRAM. Actual: Radeon HD 7700 with 1GB VRAM. That's twice the VRAM, and a much faster GPU.

I don't see how you can possibly say "It's ok but not really enough." It's well over the reqs. "Enough" means "meet the requirements", or at least that's what it should mean. And, I know that the reqs are just the bare minimum. But I'm not at the reqs in any single component, I'm at least twice as good as the reqs. The game should therefore run without problem. It should not be an issue. It shouldn't crash. I shouldn't have disappearing NPCs.

I don't know all that much about computer programming, but I am very skeptical when you tell me that something as simple as alt-tab is involved with deep coding in the game--that the problem can't be easily handled without a complete overhaul of the code. That seems like just an excuse.

And, yes, I am willing to put effort into a game. That's part of what makes a game fun. But it shouldn't be work. It should be entertaining. It should be fun. I should be wanting to put effort into it, not feeling like I'm compelled to put effort in where I don't really want to.

My understanding is that systems that are playing with Windows XP do not experience the ALT TAB issue. Windows Vista and Seven games that go full screen seem to have had issues with DirectX 9.0. I can't recall if these issues apply to 9.0c so that games and in hindsight, haven't tried playing games like Witcher or Neverwinter Nights 2 on a Windows Vista/Seven system.

Now I'm wondering if I try running the game with Windows Basic visual settings instead of Aero will I trigger the same issue?

[ganfalfxviv]

My understanding is that systems that are playing with Windows XP do not experience the ALT TAB issue. Windows Vista and Seven games that go full screen seem to have had issues with DirectX 9.0. I can't recall if these issues apply to 9.0c so that games and in hindsight, haven't tried playing games like Witcher or Neverwinter Nights 2 on a Windows Vista/Seven system.

Now I'm wondering if I try running the game with Windows Basic visual settings instead of Aero will I trigger the same issue?

I'm not running DirectX9, I'm running 11. And I'm running Windows 7, but every other game I've played has been fine. I can alt-tab in and out of Sims 3, Spore, SC2, etc. They don't crash. So, it's not the system. It's FF14.

[Skies]

I'm not running DirectX9, I'm running 11. And I'm running Windows 7, but every other game I've played has been fine. I can alt-tab in and out of Sims 3, Spore, SC2, etc. They don't crash. So, it's not the system. It's FF14.

Two things, first the quoted one: You might have DX11 installed in your computer. However, FFXIV runs with DX9.0c, which means that you are in fact not running DX11 at all, you're running DX9.0c (newer DirectX builds come with the older ones built-in so that older applications can still run, the older versions are literally what runs).

Also, alt-tabbing is not exactly as easy to implement, specially when going from full-screen, as you think it is. It requires your graphics driver doing a lot of 'jumping', changing it's focus from one graphics-heavy application that works one way to another that works a different way. That's why certain older games would crash when alt-tabbing.

The upcoming complete change in graphical system utilized in 2.0 is meant to address those issues.

(and for Fiosha, I run NWN2 on a W7 machine at home and- It does not plays well with alt-tabbing at all)

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

I'm not running DirectX9, I'm running 11. And I'm running Windows 7, but every other game I've played has been fine. I can alt-tab in and out of Sims 3, Spore, SC2, etc. They don't crash. So, it's not the system. It's FF14.

I can't find the places that spoke of it before, but my understanding of it was FF14 (or any of the games that have this issue) are using DirectX 9 code? And though we have DX11 installed, we can run code optimized for DX9 and DX10. And something in one of the methods in DX9 doesn't play well with Vista/Seven (CTRL + ALT + DEL, WIN + L, and the UAC will also crash your game).