Physical/regional servers FINALLY confirmed ??! (Y)

[ESAR]

So, I live in Ontario Canada, it's about the same distance from Japan as Europe.

I never experience this dreaded lag that everyone talks about and just wanted to put that out there.

I do however experience a horrid lag, one which I would never take to a fight, on my laptop. It actually about doubles the time to take stuff to react, you can really feel it.
Lowering the graphics drastically, only help this so much.

My laptop aint bad either, it's an i7 Quad, 2 ghz, 6gb ddr3 ram, nvidia gtx540m. It just runs the game really poorly, and besides having to run the game in on lowest graphics, there's that horrid lag. Which I'm cool with, I just craft on it.

What I'm trying to say is, I'm not conviced the lag that people complain about during ifrit is based on you're region (since I've never had a problem on PC), but more on the specs of you're PC (processor or g-card).

When they optimize this game for lower end PC's, I'd imagine that retched lag on my laptop will be gone. While the game is playable on my PC, there's definatly room for improvement there as well. if they can work on those two areas, though there's always gonna be some lag due to the fact most of us play from the other side of there world, I'm sure we'll feel enough of an improvement.

[Asiaine]

Content Finder.....*Shudders*

If the option is me sitting in Ul'Dah and doing nothing (because no one to go with) or Content Finder, I choose Content Finder ^.^

[C56]

I hope they don't region lock servers, the US one would be dead in a week -_-

[vax]

Regional sever sucks.

[Mirage]

I hope they don't region lock servers, the US one would be dead in a week -_-

"One" server?

Well anyway, no one is suggesting that the servers would be locked, even if they were regionalized, so why can't everyone just stop talking about that.

[HKP]

Hi Folks,

Actually i like to play on international servers too (i´m an EU Player) but actually, with 2.0 it won´t matter on which server you are, because you can play with ppl from other servers.

So it would be like: Im on a fast server, with no lag, but can play internationally through content finder

If i got it right, it´s a really good solution i think! Or maybe im totally wrong, then pls correct me

Regards

[Preypacer]

I'd like to see ppl what will say when there will be the claiming wars for primals/hnm vs JP ppl ... Btw i really hope in regional servers, and even in choice to remain in international for who still want stay.

Oh yes. Every time some sore loser doesn't get the claim on something, they'll blame it on "the server lag!".

I love how that becomes everyone's default argument for everything. Either that or "They beat me to the claim! ZOMG they're botting/hacking!". As though it's completely beyond comprehension and possibility that maybe someone simply had better timing than they did and beat them to the claim fair and square. It's right up there with people who feel every time they lose a fight in PvP that it's because the other person was hacking, or the other class was overpowered, etc. They'll never admit that the other person was simply a better player or had a better fight than they did. Their egos just won't take it.

Now, while that's not to say that server lag and the occasional hacker aren't a possible issue (they are in every MMO), it's not always the issue is all I'm saying. Those things become convenient scapegoats for people to use for their own failings.

People can be incredibly bad sore losers and will blame anything and everything except themselves. I'm sure "server lag!" has seen its share of undeserved attention in that case.

As for more things being handled client side... that would be a fix in some ways, but it would also open a hole large enough to sail the Titanic through (if it were still afloat). People would be doing the same crap they did in XI, with their speed hacks, their "teleporting across the zone" hacks, their "teleporting directly to a NM" hacks, etc. This all happened with XI because the server side seemed to give precedence to the client side in terms of where the player was at any given moment; it was abused like crazy. SE would have to put really careful measures in place to make sure that was kept to a minimum.

Personally, I guess the best "please everyone" solution is to have a mix of both. Have global servers for those who like the world-wide community like XI had (that would be me), and have some that are regional for those who are hung up a fraction of a second difference. I just wonder if those who are hung up on the lag/latency thing realize there are various other factors affecting their lag beyond where the server is located, and that those things are beyond SE's and their own control.

[Jinko]

So, I live in Ontario Canada, it's about the same distance from Japan as Europe.

I never experience this dreaded lag that everyone talks about and just wanted to put that out there.

I do however experience a horrid lag, one which I would never take to a fight, on my laptop. It actually about doubles the time to take stuff to react, you can really feel it.
Lowering the graphics drastically, only help this so much.

My laptop aint bad either, it's an i7 Quad, 2 ghz, 6gb ddr3 ram, nvidia gtx540m. It just runs the game really poorly, and besides having to run the game in on lowest graphics, there's that horrid lag. Which I'm cool with, I just craft on it.

What I'm trying to say is, I'm not conviced the lag that people complain about during ifrit is based on you're region (since I've never had a problem on PC), but more on the specs of you're PC (processor or g-card).

When they optimize this game for lower end PC's, I'd imagine that retched lag on my laptop will be gone. While the game is playable on my PC, there's definatly room for improvement there as well. if they can work on those two areas, though there's always gonna be some lag due to the fact most of us play from the other side of there world, I'm sure we'll feel enough of an improvement.

Its easy to tell the difference between latency issues and frame rate issues.

The fact of the matter is your are smack in the middle of both regions, your latency is going to be half of what an EU player experiences.

This isn't up for discussion, its proven that distance makes a massive different in these kinds of games, as others have said playing WoW with 300+ ms compared to 80 ms is night and day.

Fact is that EU players get 300ms tacked on before they even start.

Hi Folks,

Actually i like to play on international servers too (i´m an EU Player) but actually, with 2.0 it won´t matter on which server you are, because you can play with ppl from other servers.

So it would be like: Im on a fast server, with no lag, but can play internationally through content finder

If i got it right, it´s a really good solution i think! Or maybe im totally wrong, then pls correct me

Regards

Actually this isn't true, there is a good reason why US and EU WoW players don't get to play together.

Content finder will only work per region, you can't really connect two servers between EU and JP the data transference would be unbelievably big.

[Risae]

As for more things being handled client side... that would be a fix in some ways, but it would also open a hole large enough to sail the Titanic through (if it were still afloat). People would be doing the same crap they did in XI, with their speed hacks, their "teleporting across the zone" hacks, their "teleporting directly to a NM" hacks, etc. This all happened with XI because the server side seemed to give precedence to the client side in terms of where the player was at any given moment; it was abused like crazy. SE would have to put really careful measures in place to make sure that was kept to a minimum.

You cannot compare a game made back in 2002 with one from 2012, the technology jump is just too big.
Also, Sqaure Soft developed the new engine AND server structure only for 2.0. I'm sure they learned from their past mistakes.

[Sasagawa]

Hist a server in the EU

That way Americans can play with EU people and not suffer too much lag and EU dont suffer the crippling 300-400 ms we get now