Yoshida-san: Please Give Us a BETTER System for Relics and Future 2.0 Challenges!

[Jinko]

Pretty sure if someone asked me If I wanted the guy that was gonna do my open heart surgery to have 1000's of hours of experience or some asshat fresh outa medschool, I would pick the guy with more hours every time. SO would you.

LOL did you just compare the outcome & importance of open heart surgery to a video game, surly my eyes deceive me.

Besides I would rather pick the one that has had the most success rate, as others have said casuals are quite capable of being good players, they just have less time to game.

[Dominar]

People with less experience that do as well as people with more experience are the exception, not the rule.

People do ask for experienced players because that does more often than not mean they will be better.

Ever heard of the word veteran?

Also, whats up with people taking Biggs analogy literally? Its an analogy guys. We all know that your LS leader isnt a surgeon.

[Jinko]

We all know that your LS leader isnt a surgeon.

Who says ?

[Deatheye]

Besides I would rather pick the one that has had the most success rate, .

So you would prefer the surgeon that has made a surgery once with success and never another one over the one that did 100 and had one failure? After all the firt one had 100% success the second one only 99%...

[Jinko]

So you would prefer the surgeon that has made a surgery once with success and never another one over the one that did 100 and had one failure? After all the firt one had 100% success the second one only 99%...

Well anyone with half a brain would look at the amount of procedures wouldn't they.

Geezz come on !

[Deatheye]

Well anyone with half a brain would look at the amount of procedures wouldn't they.

Geezz come on !

OK but if you think thats so obvious I really don't understand how it seems you don't think it's obvious that in generell someone that does something more often also is bether at it. I guess there are exceptions.

[Jinko]

OK but if you think thats so obvious I really don't understand how it seems you don't think it's obvious that in generell someone that does something more often also is bether at it. I guess there are exceptions.

Why we arguing about this hmmm ?

[Felis]

like, it only rewards skill if you level everything up/farm make everything on your own, but how are you going to do ALL OF THIS before 2.0 comes out AND experience the story that comes with 1.22c/1.23?

Why do people think relic weapon quest is not in 2.0?
Or why think people they need to make it before 2.0 is out?
1. the quest would be in 2.0, too
2. level cap raise is not coming with 2.0 start
3. SE said they plan to make the weapons upgradeable with level cap raise

[rwyan]

Just an example of a system that allows players to play "their" way. As the current Relic weapon quest does, it takes advantage of existing content. Rather than "forcing" players to engage specific content, it "encourages".

At some point during the relic weapon quest, you are provided a de-activated relic. In order to activate, you have to acquire 10,000 relic seals (it could be any number really). You can only get relic seals when the de-activated relic is equipped.

Relic seals are rewarded via a variety of ways:
1. Killing mobs that are of at least level 50 have a random chance of dropping a relic seals. In this case, RNG would be driven by the level of the mob and the number of players in the group (high level mob, more players = more likely to get a seal).
2. Completing leves would also provide players with a chance of getting a seal. Faction and Company leves would offer the best chance.
3. Completing hamlet would guarantee a certain number of seals. A higher score would randomly increase the number of seals rewarded.
4. Attempting hamlet with some degree of success would randomly reward seals.
5. Completing Ifrit, Moogle and Garuda would guarantee a certain number of seals in addition to randomly rewarding more.
6. Attempting Ifrit, Moogle, and Garuda with some degree of success would randomly reward seals.
7. Completing any of the high-level instanced dungeons would guarantee a certain number of seals.
8. Attempting any of the high-level instanced dungeons with some degree of success would randomly reward a number of seals.
9. Earning an achievement would provide you with a seal.

This is just an example. But, it rewards a variety forms of gameplay. Progress is measureable. Randomness is sometimes involved (but only to provide an *extra* reward). It still requires time and the "higher risk" content would provide the best rewards. It recycles already established content mechanisms. Players aren't "forced" to engage content that already has a barrier of entry (full group, time, etc...). In this case, the only crux is having to use a de-activated relic which may increase the challenge of some content.

[Dzian]

People with less experience that do as well as people with more experience are the exception, not the rule.

People do ask for experienced players because that does more often than not mean they will be better.

thats very innacurate.

I've been driving 10 years, have 7 years no claims, zero points on my licence and do maybe 6000 miles a year.
my brothers been driving 14 years, has no no claims, 6 points on his licence, 3 accidents and he does maybe 15000 miles a year.

He's by far the more experienced driver more hours behind the wheel etc etc but i'm by far the better one which is why my insurance is 20% of what his is...

so which one would you trust to drive your car?